Nibali 79 and no way Contador and Froome not to have equal mountains. Otherwise Froome should get really low recovery 76 at most which I think he deserves baring in mind TdF13.
Contador, Froome and Quintana should all be 82 MO imo. And ofc, Quintana should have his ACC lowered from 76 to 73/72. He doesn't have a big punch. Talansky should be 78 MO.
I don't think Nibali should be lowered to 80. In 2012 he was far worse in the Dauphine than now and finished 3rd. We should wait till the end of the Tour. My opinion:
82-Froome, Contador, Quintana
81-Nibali, Rodriguez
80-Valverde
79-Porte, Kreuziger, Horner, Mollema (at least until Suisse ends), Uran
78-Betancur, Pozzovivo, Aru, Kelderman, Rolland, Talansky, Van den Broeck, Majka
77-Peraud, Fuglsang, Evans, Van Garderen, Ten Dam, Pinot, D.Martin, Hesjedal, Spilak, Costa, Niemiec, Poels, Wiggins, Nieve, Roche, Kiserlovski, F.Schleck, Frank, Duarte
I think that betancur deserves 79 MO. He won Paris Nice and Tour de Haut Var and last year he was equally if not better than uran on mountains. And by the way, he is far better than pozzo.
Yeah, Talanksy 78 sounds right. We know he can perform in Grand Tours (10th last year Tour) and from here on out, he'll only get better. We'll be great to watch in the mountains.
I'm with Unguru30. Those MT stats look very solid, and it's very close to how I changed my DB early on (Contador-Fan and such ).
82-Froome, Contador, Quintana
81-Nibali, Rodriguez
80-Valverde
79-Porte, Kreuziger, Horner, Mollema (at least until Suisse ends), Uran
78-Betancur, Pozzovivo, Aru, Kelderman, Rolland, Talansky, Van den Broeck, Majka
77-Peraud, Fuglsang, Evans, Van Garderen, Ten Dam, Pinot, D.Martin, Hesjedal, Spilak, Costa, Niemiec, Poels, Wiggins, Nieve, Roche, Kiserlovski, F.Schleck, Frank, Duarte
diacos wrote:
I think that betancur deserves 79 MO. He won Paris Nice and Tour de Haut Var and last year he was equally if not better than uran on mountains. And by the way, he is far better than pozzo.
Neither PN nor Haut Var was a mountainious race. So 78 is fine.
First of all last year Contador wasn't half as good as now,look at stage 2 in Dauphine-he followed a 700m uphill sprint(doped Froome for me).Then, show me a road race this year where Froome gained time on Contador(excluding bonus seconds.)Then lookat stages 18-20 in TdF13, catalunya 2014 and yesterday's stage and dare to say Froome is the best climber in the world. He is no longer uncrackable.Edited by dark_x2012 on 15-06-2014 09:22
baseballlover312 wrote:
Talansky at least at 78 now. Not sure I'd give him 79 until we see the TDF.
If he keeps riding like that he may end up something like 81 at the end of the TdF. I'm not talking about today stage, but he was stronger than everybody but Contador the whole race considered (and his form was on a rising trend) and if other riders won't gain form relative to him significantly in the next month, Talansky should end up on the podium of TdF.
He deserves 78 straightaway.
Edited by Anderis on 15-06-2014 16:20
I just think that Purito has already reached the max, if it comes to power in the mountains. I ran a little bit in the future, for my Rodriguez will progressively worse it fell on the mountains. This is just my humble opinion, not everyone has to agree with her
baseballlover312 wrote:
Talansky at least at 78 now. Not sure I'd give him 79 until we see the TDF.
If he keeps riding like that he may end up something like 81 at the end of the TdF. I'm not talking about today stage, but he was stronger than everybody but Contador the whole race considered (and his form was on a rising trend) and if other riders won't gain form relative to him significantly in the next month, Talansky should end up on the podium of TdF.
He deserves 78 straightaway.
He would never have won if Contador helped Froome, just saying.
