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PCM.daily DB Stats discussion
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Posted on 11-09-2026 20:12
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 28-05-2014 09:16
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Shonak wrote:
AI-stuff aside, I still think that Sagan results justify only at best a 75-76 HL stat (up to discussion). Anything above 76 is too much based upon his virtues, the hype surrounding him and too much focus on his very few, tough hill-results in my opinion.
I give up really. 
Btw why do you discuss Daily stats and talk about how it is in you game, when you dont use Daily DB, that is pointless. How i am supposed to know you have upped his sprint stat...
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 28-05-2014 09:17
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| Shonak |
Posted on 28-05-2014 09:22
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I do use Daily DB so of course I discuss stat changes in here.
Nice of you to highlight my text: You should highlight the passage tough hill for yourself the most though.
Also, no hype surrounding Sagan? You don't think that everybody looks at Sagan more than at other riders, that he is causing great mania amongst fans? That he is one of the most talked about riders? That each result is vry much discussed upon? That people expect in fact way too much of such a young guy? What was Mailand San Remo, eh? And at the Ronde? People awaited his first monument win at his age already, but yeah - that's no hype. Everbody talked about Cancellara vs Sagan ahead of Flanders, but erm... yeah, okay. Yeah, sure. No hype at all. 
Edited by Shonak on 28-05-2014 09:31
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 28-05-2014 09:30
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Shonak wrote:
I do use Daily DB so of course I discuss stat changes in here.
You suggested you used modified stats for some people, i hope we are discussing default Daily stats here...this discussion would be much shorter if it was made clear that he has 80 sprint after your modification, because that changes a lot compared to 78 he has in Daily default iirc.
And i higlighted the part i found ridiculous.
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| Ton1Mart1n |
Posted on 28-05-2014 10:50
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
It seems that we both have different game installed,are you talking about PCM13? Because in 90% in my careers, Cav or Kittel win the green even with Sagan present, even with his 78hill, so i would be really surprised to see him doing it "regulary" with 75. How many careers do you tried after lowering him to 75 so you are able to talk about regularity?
Fighter is irrelevant, as it is barely functional stat. Only secondary stat that matters is acceleration...
Not only acc, also rest!
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| Jorge14 |
Posted on 29-05-2014 16:59
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Sagan with 76Hill is nice for him. |
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| Ton1Mart1n |
Posted on 29-05-2014 17:03
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Uran mountain stat? 80 ?
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 29-05-2014 17:05
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Why? For keeping up with Pozzovivo, Hesjedal Majka, Aru, Rolland and Co.?
And if you mention Quintana in all this, no point for him attacking now he has this massive lead.
Edited by Alakagom on 29-05-2014 17:05
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| gotlandrules |
Posted on 29-05-2014 17:43
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Alakagom, give us your thoughts about Sagan please  btw, Aru looks like the strongest climber after Nairo so far, a few big stages left though so we'll see |
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| Aleakez |
Posted on 29-05-2014 17:51
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I don't think Rolland is even in his best form so i see him along with Uran as the best climbers behind Quintana.
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| nacho63 |
Posted on 29-05-2014 18:34
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I think Uran should stay at 78 (just) but raise his TT to 75.
Sagan it's hard to say, I think he has the ability but he doesn't turn up to the big ardennes so I'd give him 77. 2/3 short of the likes of Kwiatek, Gerrans etc.. |
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| Ton1Mart1n |
Posted on 29-05-2014 22:14
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But still Uran finished second last year.
I'll say 79 with possibility to grow to 81 
Sagan hill stat: 78. But Sagan is always unpredictable
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 29-05-2014 22:18
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No way. he is always so high in Ardennes and even some mountain stage because of his crazy secondary stats. Any higher than 76 and he will still do that. it's about realistic gameplay not "potential performances."
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 29-05-2014 23:48
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I can't believe that some people are considering Sagan for a 78 hill stat, that would put him as a potential winner for the LBL or GDL. 75 is about right for him which enables him to still compete well in hilly stage races, as his other stats of sprinter, recovery and endurance still make him a huge threat, especially if his form is good on some hilly races.
Back in the 80's and 90's he probably would've challenged more for hilly stages, but since the 00's cycling is more specialized than ever and Sagan has chosen the flatter and cobbled classics as his priority, along with the green jersey in the TDF.
I also can't believe that some people are talking Uran at 80/81 that's the level/almost the level of riders like Nibali. Contador, Rodriguez, Quintana and Froome. Uran at very best would be 79 (which keeps him just above the rest of the pack of riders on 78) his TT at 75 makes him still a good rider and capable of challenging for a podium position in a big tour which is about his level, but he's still not upto winning a big tour.
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 30-05-2014 07:11
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Aleakez wrote:
I don't think Rolland is even in his best form so i see him along with Uran as the best climbers behind Quintana.
Virtual mountain classification: (I have put the time difference together, on the real mountain stages, Stelvio stage is not counted)
1 Aru
2 Rolland +11 sec
3 Quiatana +21 sec
4 Majka +67 sec
5 Uranium +68 sec
6 Hesjedal +71 sec
7 Pozzovivo +79 sec
Evans +190 sec
Aru is the best climber in the race right now, unless someone does not comply with the rules and attack on a neutralized descent. |
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| Schleck96 |
Posted on 30-05-2014 09:43
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Arberg27 wrote:
Aleakez wrote:
I don't think Rolland is even in his best form so i see him along with Uran as the best climbers behind Quintana.
Virtual mountain classification: (I have put the time difference together, on the real mountain stages, Stelvio stage is not counted)
1 Aru
2 Rolland +11 sec
3 Quiatana +21 sec
4 Majka +67 sec
5 Uranium +68 sec
6 Hesjedal +71 sec
7 Pozzovivo +79 sec
Evans +190 sec
Aru is the best climber in the race right now, unless someone does not comply with the rules and attack on a neutralized descent.
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| jph27 |
Posted on 30-05-2014 10:31
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Taking 2 minutes off the gaps at the end of the Stelvio stage
1 Quintana
2 Hesjedal +58
3 Rolland +1'03
4 Aru +1'19
5 Majka +2'26
6 Uran +2'27
7 Pozzovivo +2'38
8 Evans +4'37
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| jph27 |
Posted on 30-05-2014 10:51
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jph27 wrote:
Taking 2 minutes off the gaps at the end of the Stelvio stage
1 Quintana
2 Hesjedal +58
3 Rolland +1'03
4 Aru +1'19
5 Majka +2'26
6 Uran +2'27
7 Pozzovivo +2'38
8 Evans +4'37
Will try to work out where Kelderman would be.
Discounting gaps from the TTT and TT, plus taking away the 2 minutes gained on the Stelvio descent you get the GC based on just the climbs:
Quintana
Hesjedal +1'20
Rolland +1'27
Aru +1'34
Pozzovivo +2'21
Majka +3'05
Kelderman +3'09
Uran +3'12
Evans +4'54
Kiserlovski +5'20 |
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| Jorge14 |
Posted on 31-05-2014 16:20
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Stats mountain after Giro sugestions? |
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| gotlandrules |
Posted on 31-05-2014 16:27
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What are the current stats on the giroriders?
edit: the top climbers that is, not all the riders
Edited by gotlandrules on 31-05-2014 16:31
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| dev4ever |
Posted on 31-05-2014 20:56
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When is the post Giro-update coming? If it is comming before pcm14?
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