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| Smowz |
Posted on 16-06-2010 22:12
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South Africa full of enthusiasim but lacking in any quality at all.
I thought the fans walking out towards the end there was a little off, but then their expectations had been up there after cheap wins against lesser opposition.
The South Americans are on a roll, I enjoyed the Chile game very much. I though Paraguay played with real determination against Italy. Brazil we will know more about after their next game, Argentina too, though they were very good in their opener.
The Europeans have been mixed, Germany were very good, the Dutch I did not see but the result was good against a defensive Denmark. France, England, Italy and Spain all had spurts of good play mixed with each nations usual problems that each need to confront in their second round games. The Africans have really struggled, Ghana played okay and Nigeria/Ivory Coast showed something. But none really looked like anything but scrapping into the 2nd round. Then again Uruguay turned up here tonight, maybe a few more permances will be turned in now. |
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| Lorkan |
Posted on 16-06-2010 22:30
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Europeans teams are clearly weaker this year or at least unstable (except Germany), while American teams (including USA) seem to be much more prepared.
I'd just love to see Uruguay going far, and to tell you my opinion, I wouldn't be that surprised to see a 100% American semi-final, and not only Bra-Arg... |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 16-06-2010 22:43
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Well, there's a statistic saying that a European team has never won a World Championship outside of Europe. It seems somewhat likely to 'stay'. |
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| Lorkan |
Posted on 16-06-2010 22:45
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CrueTrue wrote:
Well, there's a statistic saying that a European team has never won a World Championship outside of Europe. It seems somewhat likely to 'stay'.
I didn't know that. But I can't help hoping for France... |
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| ruben |
Posted on 16-06-2010 22:52
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Lol, you're hoping for the worst performing European favorite so far to suddenly perform?
Man...weird Belgians |
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| Lorkan |
Posted on 16-06-2010 22:56
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Don't be too rude with Belgians, I'm French 
After seeing what I've seen tonight about Uruguay, I find our match against us still bad, but not a so bad result... always better than loosing against Switzerland (nothing against them though). |
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| Whatsup |
Posted on 16-06-2010 23:18
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European teams may not be so shaky. It would be rather the opposite as the level of playing all around Europe has obviously improved. Eg Even Brazil had trouble edging out North Korea - just odd. So the levels are getting closer, hence all high ranked teams got to perform an accurate play and play hard to take the lead. Oh of course Germany managed to win easily; that's the very exception to the rule!
That has come lately. Hope some teams have figured it out in order to deal with, otherwise....
According to SA 0-3 Uruguay, France got to wake up early and play as cunningly as possible with the appropriate players. Tomorrow we'll make it through or Tomorrow we'll kick the bucket
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 17-06-2010 02:48
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Ok, so I have just finished finals, so I apologise if this doesn't make sense. I only caught the first 20 minutes and then got a text from my dad asking whether it was a penalty or Suarez's 4th dive? Anyway, Uruguay are lame, and we will now just have to destroy France. Stupid FIFA seeding us in a difficult group... THey should have given us New Zeeland and Hondouras.
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| samdiatmh |
Posted on 17-06-2010 04:47
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hmmm
i think it was a penalty (as contact was made with suarez)
but whether it warranted a red card is debatable (as suarez was clipped by the goalkeeper - who couldn't pull out of it) |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 17-06-2010 08:13
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"I know....let's play in a narrow band of about 25 meters width, with no runs from midfield and no support from the fullbacks. What? We lost? How can that be?"
The worst Spain I've seen in a long time
CrueTrue wrote:
Well, there's a statistic saying that a European team has never won a World Championship outside of Europe. It seems somewhat likely to 'stay'.
Exception to 2002, every WC was won by a team from the home continent
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 17-06-2010 09:18
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Another statistic : France 1986 was the last defending European champion to perform good at the World Cup following its title.
All the other European champions failed miserably 2 years after.
Second statistic : no team that won the tournament ever lost its first game.
Last but not least : ever since 1962, the winner has been either a former champion, either the host country.
Statistically-speaking, Spain has very little chances of winning the World Cup this year. |
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| pesci |
Posted on 17-06-2010 09:33
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That is why I am so glad that football is not only statistics!!!
Spain yesterday was a little bit disappointing, if you want to play like that you need more speed in the pass and more band game.
I also would like to say that until now Germany was the best team, but it was against Australia, which until now was the weakest team with Greece.
Uruguay yesterday had a little bit of luck joint with a good defensive game. This is the WC and when you score such a goal like Forlan (with some luck) in a group like that one, you just have to wait for the SA. Which of course is not a team used to do it, and in counter attack just kill them. I don´t want to say that Uruguay play bad, NO, but it also did not play as good as the result shows... |
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 17-06-2010 09:47
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issoisso wrote:
"I know....let's play in a narrow band of about 25 meters width, with no runs from midfield and no support from the fullbacks. What? We lost? How can that be?"
The worst Spain I've seen in a long time
CrueTrue wrote:
Well, there's a statistic saying that a European team has never won a World Championship outside of Europe. It seems somewhat likely to 'stay'.
Exception to 2002, every WC was won by a team from the home continent
and 1958, and 1994 and I guess arguably the two Mexican ones in 1970 and 1986
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| Lorkan |
Posted on 17-06-2010 09:48
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pesci wrote:
That is why I am so glad that football is not only statistics!!!
Spain yesterday was a little bit disappointing, if you want to play like that you need more speed in the pass and more band game.
I also would like to say that until now Germany was the best team, but it was against Australia, which until now was the weakest team with Greece.
Uruguay yesterday had a little bit of luck joint with a good defensive game. This is the WC and when you score such a goal like Forlan (with some luck) in a group like that one, you just have to wait for the SA. Which of course is not a team used to do it, and in counter attack just kill them. I don´t want to say that Uruguay play bad, NO, but it also did not play as good as the result shows...
You just can't say that Australia is the weakest team, they were in the match... 'til the red card... Greece, Algeria, Honduras, Slovenia and some others are weaker than Australia, they have Schwarzer, who is a great GK, they have many guys able to shoot far and strong (which can be an advantage with this ball)... it's a serious team, don't pull them down too early. |
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 17-06-2010 09:55
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i don't know why everyone is saying Germany are amazing after 1 game against a poor Australia team who were down to 10 men for practically the whole second half.
they've got their easiest game out the way so we'll see how good they really are after there next 2 against half decent opponents.
i don't think you can really tell who is in form and who isn't until the second round when the knockout phase begins. you can't win the world cup in the group phase but you can loose it. no point playing your best football in your first game and the running out of steam in the quarters. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 17-06-2010 10:11
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Lorkan wrote:
pesci wrote:
That is why I am so glad that football is not only statistics!!!
Spain yesterday was a little bit disappointing, if you want to play like that you need more speed in the pass and more band game.
I also would like to say that until now Germany was the best team, but it was against Australia, which until now was the weakest team with Greece.
Uruguay yesterday had a little bit of luck joint with a good defensive game. This is the WC and when you score such a goal like Forlan (with some luck) in a group like that one, you just have to wait for the SA. Which of course is not a team used to do it, and in counter attack just kill them. I don´t want to say that Uruguay play bad, NO, but it also did not play as good as the result shows...
You just can't say that Australia is the weakest team, they were in the match... 'til the red card... Greece, Algeria, Honduras, Slovenia and some others are weaker than Australia, they have Schwarzer, who is a great GK, they have many guys able to shoot far and strong (which can be an advantage with this ball)... it's a serious team, don't pull them down too early.
I don't agree with this. Slovenia is a decent team. Unlike australia they're well organized and their coach knows what he's doing. And man for man I'd rather have their squad than the australian one.
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 17-06-2010 10:56
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mb2612 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
"I know....let's play in a narrow band of about 25 meters width, with no runs from midfield and no support from the fullbacks. What? We lost? How can that be?"
The worst Spain I've seen in a long time
CrueTrue wrote:
Well, there's a statistic saying that a European team has never won a World Championship outside of Europe. It seems somewhat likely to 'stay'.
Exception to 2002, every WC was won by a team from the home continent
and 1958, and 1994 and I guess arguably the two Mexican ones in 1970 and 1986
In this north- and southamerica are seen as one continent. And if you are gonna say that the Mexican ones are arguable, then are the USA hosted 1994 aswell.
But Brazil are the only team that has won a WC on a different continent and the only winning team that hasn't won a tournament as host.
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 17-06-2010 11:08
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I don't know, there is no real consensus on the number of continents (see wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent) but I typically use the 7 continent system and, more importantly for the purposes of this conversation, so does FIFA. My debate about Mexico was due more to the convention of including it in Latin America, and hence whether that made it's North American classification less relevant.
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| Lorkan |
Posted on 17-06-2010 11:20
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issoisso wrote:
Lorkan wrote:
pesci wrote:
That is why I am so glad that football is not only statistics!!!
Spain yesterday was a little bit disappointing, if you want to play like that you need more speed in the pass and more band game.
I also would like to say that until now Germany was the best team, but it was against Australia, which until now was the weakest team with Greece.
Uruguay yesterday had a little bit of luck joint with a good defensive game. This is the WC and when you score such a goal like Forlan (with some luck) in a group like that one, you just have to wait for the SA. Which of course is not a team used to do it, and in counter attack just kill them. I don´t want to say that Uruguay play bad, NO, but it also did not play as good as the result shows...
You just can't say that Australia is the weakest team, they were in the match... 'til the red card... Greece, Algeria, Honduras, Slovenia and some others are weaker than Australia, they have Schwarzer, who is a great GK, they have many guys able to shoot far and strong (which can be an advantage with this ball)... it's a serious team, don't pull them down too early.
I don't agree with this. Slovenia is a decent team. Unlike australia they're well organized and their coach knows what he's doing. And man for man I'd rather have their squad than the australian one.
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| jack888 |
Posted on 17-06-2010 12:06
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It's too early to judge teams, wait until the second round of games is over to know for sure. I don't see anything wrong with Australia at the moment. Germany are by far the best team right now and anyone with half a brain would know we were going to lose first up months ago. And all those people who are shocked by our loss must of thought we had a chance in the first place 
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