Deadpool wrote:
Presently, Hushovd (he's good, but not that good), of all time (Ruben is going to kill me) Boogerd
If anyone was UNDER rated, then it was Boogerd. It always showed in the databases too. He was probably the strongest (that's different from best) hilly rider of the past 10 years, that's why every other hilly rider, who did have a sprint, chose his wheel. That way it was easy, the one who can follow Boogerd, will win the race.
Proven so for years. Bettini, Rebellin, Di Luca, Cunego, and some other profiteurs. And from those guys, he was the best climber as well (Tour de France wise), if Di Luca or Cunego can win the Giro, Boogerd could have won it too. Most underrated rider of the past decade.
Boogerd was a strong rider, but he never won anything after he won AGR that first year. Thats the reason I consider him overrated, on paper he was as strong as anyone
Deadpool wrote:
Presently, Hushovd (he's good, but not that good), of all time (Ruben is going to kill me) Boogerd
If anyone was UNDER rated, then it was Boogerd. It always showed in the databases too. He was probably the strongest (that's different from best) hilly rider of the past 10 years, that's why every other hilly rider, who did have a sprint, chose his wheel. That way it was easy, the one who can follow Boogerd, will win the race.
Proven so for years. Bettini, Rebellin, Di Luca, Cunego, and some other profiteurs. And from those guys, he was the best climber as well (Tour de France wise), if Di Luca or Cunego can win the Giro, Boogerd could have won it too. Most underrated rider of the past decade.
Boogerd was a strong rider, but he never won anything after he won AGR that first year. Thats the reason I consider him overrated, on paper he was as strong as anyone
Meh, you're both saying the same thing. Boogerd's strength was relatively better than his results.
So, from the results point of view, given his strength, he was overrated, but from the strength point of view if you only look at his results he was underrated.
Question without any precision is now : was Boogerd overrated ?
Fight.
Deadpool wrote:
Presently, Hushovd (he's good, but not that good), of all time (Ruben is going to kill me) Boogerd
If anyone was UNDER rated, then it was Boogerd. It always showed in the databases too. He was probably the strongest (that's different from best) hilly rider of the past 10 years, that's why every other hilly rider, who did have a sprint, chose his wheel. That way it was easy, the one who can follow Boogerd, will win the race.
Proven so for years. Bettini, Rebellin, Di Luca, Cunego, and some other profiteurs. And from those guys, he was the best climber as well (Tour de France wise), if Di Luca or Cunego can win the Giro, Boogerd could have won it too. Most underrated rider of the past decade.
Boogerd was a strong rider, but he never won anything after he won AGR that first year. Thats the reason I consider him overrated, on paper he was as strong as anyone
Ruben you are overreacting. he wasn't the best climber. he was a good teammate and climber , but he never would be able to lead a team in a GT.
Dekker on the other hand might win a GT someday ( i believe)
in hte hilly classics he was one of the best/strongest not the.
i think he was amongst the top 5
Edited by Stijn_vranken on 15-10-2008 14:14
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
sometimes its more than results
Ok, let's put it this way: HE NEVER RODE A SINGLE RACE.
So, saying he's the 16th best in the world is overrating him. Happy now?
Hey, be nice Isso, British people never have been really good with, "logic".
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
sometimes its more than results
Ok, let's put it this way: HE NEVER RODE A SINGLE RACE.
So, saying he's the 16th best in the world is overrating him. Happy now?
Hey, be nice Isso, British people never have been really good with, "logic".
Considering youre American, your attempted insult means nothing
Coming from a brit.
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
