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Tour of East Java - Discussion
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| kandesbunzler26 |
Posted on 15-02-2024 21:07
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 [PTHC] Tour of East Java
The four stages are pretty clearly designed for certain kinds of riders with 3 stages for sprinters and one mountain stage to decide the GC.
The roll of honor of this race includes some of the biggest names in the entire MGUCI with Silvio Herklotz being the only one with more than one GC win. But the German isn’t here to add a third win, so  Yates and  Beltran are the only former winners at the start.
Previous winners:
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| Year | Winner | | | | | | | | | 2022 | Silvio Herklotz (Team Puma - SAP) | | 2021 | Silvio Herklotz (Team Puma - SAP) | | 2020 | Taylor Phinney (Isostar - Specialized) | | 2019 | Eduard Alexander Beltran (Swisslion Cycling Team) | | 2018 | Adam Yates (Ayubowan!) | | 2017 | Natnael Berhane (Eritel - Sonatrach) | | 2016 | Tiago Machado (Porto - Prio) | | 2015 | Julien Berard (Fablok - Dunlop) | | 2013 | Allan Davis (Hollister Pro Cycling) |
2022 results:
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| 1 | Silvio Herklotz | Team Puma - SAP | 12h51'16 | | 2 | Angel Madrazo | Bralirwa - Stevens | + 6 | | 3 | Taylor Phinney | Isostar - Specialized | + 12 | | 4 | Mattia Cattaneo | Minions - Subwoolfer | + 16 | | 5 | Romain Sicard | Strava | + 20 | | 6 | Domen Novak | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | s.t. | | 7 | Tim Wellens | Aegon - Peroni | s.t. | | 8 | Thibaut Pinot | ISA - Hexacta | s.t. | | 9 | Magnus Cort Nielsen | De Stijl Cycling | s.t. | | 10 | Pierre Paolo Penasa | Philips - Force India | s.t. |
The field consists of 7 PT teams and 12 PCT teams. Given the profile of the race there are only two groups of riders to look out for: sprinters for stages 1, 2 and 4 and climbers for stage 3 and the GC.
Climbers:
There are some good climbers at the start, but only one really great one:  Lecuisinier is clearly the top favourite for the GC and everything except a win would be a disappointment for him. Behind him the fight for the other two podium spots could be fierce as there are a dozen contenders on a pretty equal level for the only mountain stage.
| | MO | HI | ST | RS | AC | DH | | | Lecuisinier | Pierre-Henri | 85 | 75 | 78 | 80 | 74 | 70 | Evonik - ELKO |  Tenorio | Justo | 82 | 74 | 75 | 73 | 64 | 66 | Binance |  Wellens | Tim | 82 | 75 | 79 | 80 | 68 | 70 | ZARA - Irizar |  Barguil | Warren | 81 | 75 | 77 | 77 | 75 | 76 | Lidl Cycling |  Choi | Ki Ho | 81 | 74 | 77 | 76 | 68 | 71 | Sony - Force India |  Bennett | George | 81 | 76 | 75 | 74 | 73 | 63 | Xero Racing |  Warchol | Bartosz | 80 | 74 | 76 | 77 | 70 | 68 | Gazelle | | Yates | Adam | 80 | 76 | 79 | 80 | 76 | 71 | Indosat Ooredoo |  Ranaweera | Suranga | 80 | 73 | 75 | 75 | 65 | 69 | Kraftwerk Man Machine |  Novak | Domen | 80 | 77 | 74 | 76 | 76 | 75 | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam |  Monsalve | Yonathan | 79 | 74 | 76 | 77 | 70 | 63 | Lampre - Pinarello |  Ardila | Andres Camilo | 79 | 78 | 68 | 69 | 73 | 66 | MOL Cycling Team |  Schelling | Patrick | 79 | 74 | 73 | 74 | 68 | 71 | Team UBS - Tissot |  Min | Kyeng Ho | 79 | 76 | 75 | 77 | 66 | 69 | Trans Looney Tunes |
Sprinters:
The sprints should be exciting as there are about 10 sprinters whose skills are nearly indistinguishable.
| | FL | SP | AC | | | Abdul Halil | Mohamad Izzat Hilmi | 70 | 81 | 79 | Indosat Ooredoo | | Zabel | Rick | 74 | 81 | 79 | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Aniolkowski | Stanislaw | 76 | 80 | 79 | Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska |  Einhorn | Itamar | 74 | 80 | 78 | Sauber Petronas Racing | | Jakobsen | Fabio | 74 | 80 | 80 | ZARA - Irizar | | Carsi | Mustafa | 70 | 80 | 82 | Binance | | Bonifazio | Niccolo | 79 | 80 | 80 | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | | Coutinho | Lionel | 72 | 79 | 80 | Lampre - Pinarello | | Keough | Luke | 73 | 79 | 79 | MOL Cycling Team | | Lutsyshyn | Roman | 70 | 79 | 80 | Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska |  El Sabbahi | Houcaine | 77 | 78 | 77 | Colombini Cycling |  Vingerling | Michael | 70 | 78 | 78 | Fastned |
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| DubbelDekker |
Posted on 15-02-2024 21:19
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Hoping for top 10 with Warchol
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| knockout |
Posted on 15-02-2024 21:31
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Everything less than the victory is a disappointment and a failure.
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| Fabianski |
Posted on 15-02-2024 21:36
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Wow, that's a weak field 
In my experience, PTHC races are often the most stacked ones, even more so than some PT races - but this one definitely isn't. I think it's a huge chance for many PCT teams to score big - although the win obviously has to be gone already. Everything else than LPH winning would be a huge surprise.
I guess some PCT managers will now be unhappy with their lineup, as this really looks like a race with some "easy points". Also, the sprinter field is mostly PCT, so I'm looking forward to see many of my rivals doing well here 
On the other hand, I'm definitely NOT looking forward to see the Tour de Suisse startlist 
Thanks for the preview and good luck to all!
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 15-02-2024 22:14
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I really hope Novak can repeat from last year, but it hasn't been his season so far.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 15-02-2024 22:38
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Thank you for the preview KB!
Should be a straight-forward win for PHL, assuming the breakaway is kept under control. Wellens with a great opportunity for 2nd while anything less than a podium would be considered failure to be honest. He's got domestique support with Fernandez and Rodriguez which should suffice for an assault on the climb.
In the 3 sprinter stages, I'm expecting great performances from Jakobsen who's one of the most well-rounded of the favourites. With support from Hofstetter and Hesters, amongst others, I have high expectations.
Hopefully we come away from this one happy 
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 15-02-2024 22:39
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Hope this goes better than Bennett's last PTHC outing
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
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| whitejersey |
Posted on 15-02-2024 23:06
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We have a purpose on every stage here with a good chance to really get a lot out of this race especially if Coutinho finds his sprinting shoes!
Thanks for a great preview!
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 16-02-2024 06:25
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Was expecting a stronger startlist, so it would be great if Choi can live up to his placing in the favourites and get into the Top 5. He did it in Colombia, so we can hope for sure. We don't have any sprinter here, so maybe a couple of breakaway riders could be possible.
Thanks for the preview kb
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| SotD |
Posted on 16-02-2024 06:49
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Interestingly weak field here. The PpRD potential here is huge for GC riders, so it’s really weird.
Obviously PHL should win here.
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| roturn |
Posted on 16-02-2024 11:10
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Instead of using Cras in more suited events, he will be the leader in this packed field. Top10 not even impossible but can`t be the goal. Hopefully he has some solid form on the climb and can somehow fit into the top10-15 then for small points.
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| Eden95 |
Posted on 17-02-2024 11:37
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Such a surprisingly weak field - and an easy win for PHL.
I wasn’t expecting to get much out of this race, with the usual top 3-4 GC climbers and sprinters in the MG universe oresent. We have 7 riders here - and no real support for Yates which now looking at the startlist could be a problem as he might actually have a chance at a decent result. Would absolutely kill for him to be able to land himself in the top-5 here, we’ve never had a good GC result in our home race. Fingers crossed.
A shame to see Abdul Halil as one of the ‘best’ sprinters. He’s going to get a train and it’s going to kill our point scoring in this race as a result, goddamit. I was banking on the usual strong sprinter field where he could just ride wheels to a couple of alright results, now I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t even land in the top-10 once. Keough and Lutshyn gonna swoop in and take the flat stages at the last second.
Thanks for the preview, and good luck to everybody with this lottery of a race.
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| kandesbunzler26 |
Posted on 17-02-2024 20:32
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The first report will be posted tomorrow afternoon or evening.
Sorry for the delay.
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| Eden95 |
Posted on 18-02-2024 21:19
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How does the break stay away on a 95k stage? Madness.
Thank is for the report, congrats trans.
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| whitejersey |
Posted on 18-02-2024 22:29
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Tomorrow's another day. Congrats to Trans, kinda crazy that the break survives, thanks for the report!
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 18-02-2024 22:33
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Gasper K does it again, loving that!
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| redordead |
Posted on 19-02-2024 07:10
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Eden95 wrote:
How does the break stay away on a 95k stage? Madness.
Thank is for the report, congrats trans.
Kinda makes more sense that it happens on a short stage. Katra is awesome 
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 19-02-2024 09:20
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Not what we want to see, both the breakaway surviving and Jakobsen (4th best sprinter) outside the Top 10. Let's hope the other sprinter stages aren't more of the same!
Good win for Trans though
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 19-02-2024 17:11
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Nicccccollloooooooooooo
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 19-02-2024 17:27
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Nope, still going to sell him.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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