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Classique du Grand Duché - Discussion
Imladrik
Wëllkomm zu Lëtzebuerg! The Classique du Grand Duché maybe isn’t the biggest race of the PT triple-header – as it takes place at the same time as two one-week stage races –, but it surely is a hard one: nearly 228 km full of bumps and steep climbs are sufficient to tire even the best riders.

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Last winners


2022Peter Sagan (Moser – Sygic)
2021Anthony Turgis (Farfetch Pro Cycling)
2020Miguel Angel Lopez (Evonik – ELKO)
2019Peter Sagan (Moser – Sygic)
2018Arnaud Demare (Team Puma – SAP)
2017Peter Sagan (Moser – Sygic)


2022 results


1Peter SaganMoser - Sygic5h51'59
2Sean De BieAegon - Peronis.t.
3Jay McCarthyAmaysim Cervelos.t.
4Miguel Angel LopezEvonik - ELKOs.t.
5Charalampas KastrantasELCO - ABEAs.t.
6Attila ValterEA Vesuvios.t.
7Clement KoretzkyELCO - ABEAs.t.
8Michal KwiatkowskiMOL Cycling Teams.t.
9Tiesj BenootPhilips - Force Indias.t.
10Simon YatesZwift Pro Cyclings.t.
11Nans PetersGazelles.t.
12Cyril BarthePolars.t.
13Valentin MadouasTeam Puma - SAPs.t.
14Sjoerd BaxEA Vesuvios.t.
15Wilco KeldermanLos Pollos Hermanoss.t.
16Moreno HoflandGazelles.t.
17Georg PreidlerAker - MOTs.t.
18Floris GertsHuski Chocolates.t.
19Alberto BettiolDe Stijl Cyclings.t.
20Vincenzo AlbanesecycleYorkshires.t.
21Sarawut SirironnachaiKing Powers.t.
22Diego UlissiEA Vesuvios.t.


No 4th victory here for Sagan: he changed team during the offseason, and Binance decided to send it to Paris-Nice. No Démare nor Turgis either, as both are now in PCT. But we’ll indeed see a former winner in Luxembourg: Miguel Angel Lopez is back after last year’s fourth place. But he won’t be alone.

2023 edition


MOHISTRSACDH
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/evo.png Miguel Angel Lopez798476747871
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/pum.png Silvio Herklotz848179807676


Well, there they are. Two superstars, with strong abilities both and the hills and in the mountains, good endurance and acceleration. They should easily take the first positions, even though Lopez hasn’t always be able to do so. Moreover, they have strong support with them, which should allow to control the race and make it selective enough: Blums, Koch and Foss for Evonik, Madouas, Egger, Schinnagel and Fortunato for Puma.

But a surprise can always happen, isn’t it? Let’s see who are those who will want to disturb this apparent supremacy:

MOHISTRSACDH
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/akm.png Matej Mohoric718378727779
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/aau.png Jay McCarthy678280757471
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/bnb.png Michal Kwiatkowski778073757468
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/eav.png Attila Valter778076757871
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/eav.png Caio Godoy817675767568
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/ela.png Clement Koretzky708075687769
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/gzl.png Bartosz Warchol807476777068
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/isa.png Petr Vakoc718175717466
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/min.png Tomohiro Kinoshita728380777771
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/ubt.png Emanuel Buchmann768173747370
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/ubt.png Patrick Müller678076717363
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/tti.png Toms Skujins708380777666
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/tlt.png Zico Waeytens718072707375
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/ziz.png Bruno Borges708075738165


pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/akm.png Aker – MOT brings in Mohoric as their main leader. He finished 9th in 2021, in a bunch arrival. His main support/co leader will be Preidler (11th in 2021, 17th last year), but after that, their helper will mainly try to protect them on the flat, as they might struggle to keep up with the pace when we’ll go uphill.

pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/aau.png Amaysim ended 3rd with McCarthy last year, but they were a PCT team then. The lack of ability in the mountains might hurt the Australian if Puma or EA Vesuvio decide to make the race hard. The main helper would be Patrick Lane, though with Hamilton and Drizners, they have some competent punching domestiques.

pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/bnb.png Binance will be counting on one of the strongest MO/HI hybrids, Michal Kwiatkowski, to have a good result. He was 8th last year for MOL.
His support his mainly Paulinho, who’s still competent, but aging and might not still be here when his help will be needed.

Newly promoted teams pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/ced.png Cedevita (Gaudu, Svab) or pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/cdb.png Carlsberg (Rojas, Eg) don’t have much to expect from this race, and will want to be in the break.

Albanese finished in the main group last season, to bring in a 20th place for pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/yor.png cycleYorkshire. It’s about what they can expect with Romo and Holmes leading the team. Ballerini could be very dangerous, if he was able to finish in the leading group, which will probably not be the case.

Double threat for pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/eav.png EA Vesuvio, with Valter and Godoy who complete themselves very well. The two leaders have excellent physical abilities, and are well supported by Geniets, Wirtgen or Bax, who finished 14th last season. Valter was 6th and could aim for a top 5.

If Koretzky came in 7th last year, he surprisingly wasn’t the best finisher for pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/ela.png ELCO – ABEA: that was Kastrantas, with a strong top 5. The two are back again, and though Koretzky won the French national championship, he doesn’t get any younger. Still, he remains one of the strong puncher of the division, has decent climbing abilities and a good team with him.

Only 6 riders came in Luxembourg for pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/gzl.png Gazelle, but except for Teunissen who’s more a flat beast, all of them should be a strong support for Warchol. He should be able to do better than Peters’ 11th last season.

Not much to say about pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/grm.png. Like last year and the year before, they clearly gave up on this race of the triple header. Their best shot at a decent result is Jonas Vingegaard, and in such a field, it’s not much.

The same can’t be said about pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/isa.png ISA – Hexacta: Vakoc is a strong classic puncheur, and he’s got some good lieutenants in the name of Cepeda Hernandez and Parra Bustamente.

Most of the time, a low number of riders can mean that a team is only there because they have too, as a PT team. It’s clearly the case for pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/kng.png King Power : though Quita has some qualities, he’s not really equipped for a good result in such a field. He was 24th last season.

Other name, same situation for pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/ldl.png Lidl Cycling: Van der Poel will probably do what he can, but he certainly won’t equal Turgis’ win in 2021.

The pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/min.png Minions could disagree with my earlier statement: they bring in Kinoshita, and the Japanese surely can do something in Luxembourg. Slagter will be his only support, though, and he might not have the stamina to do this for long.

pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/mol.png MOL is another team without much hope for this race. With Kwiatkowski, Waeytens and Preidler all there, but in other teams, their three main scorers in the previous seasons are gone. Maybe Filutas or Dina can surprise me.

Title holder pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/mos.png Moser is in the same boat. The only thing is that the name of their out-outsiders are Khederi and Neuman. Same story for pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/pol.png Polar (Le Roux, Carpenter) and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/rab.png Rabobank (Champoussin, Gerts).

After missing the Top 30 last year as a PT team, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/ubt.png Team UBS – Tissot comes back as a PCT team, with Buchmann as a solid leader, accompanied by Müller, Badilatti and Schelling. A strong team with the German, 14th two years ago.

Less support for Skujins, as only Chernetskiy can really help pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/tti.png Tinkoff - La Datcha Team. The Russians were 29th last year with their Latvian leader, and 18th in 2021 with his lieutenant, who has since then declined.

No recent history for PCT team pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/tlt.png Trans Looney Tunes, but they are lead by Waeytens, who had some success (10th) for MOL two years ago. 19th the same year for Duolingo, Min will be a valuable helper, and might hope for a similar position. Calmejane and Bystrom also are solid riders for this team.

And lastly, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/ziz.png ZARA - Irizar comes with a team of youngsters: except their veteran leader Borges (8th in 2021), they have no rider over 24, even though some of them already are valuable helpers on the hills (Finkler, Miquel).

And that’s it! A long day of racing awaits us. Good luck to all the riders.

Full startlist

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MohoricMatejAker - MOT
PreidlerGeorgAker - MOT
BravoEdisonAker - MOT
PottsMarcAker - MOT
LaporteChristopheAker - MOT
SuterJoelAker - MOT
KlarisMagnus BakAker - MOT
VideikaAiridasAker - MOT
McCarthyJayAmaysim Australia.com
LanePatrickAmaysim Australia.com
HamiltonChrisAmaysim Australia.com
DriznersJarradAmaysim Australia.com
SchreursHamishAmaysim Australia.com
MonkCyrusAmaysim Australia.com
WohlerAlexAmaysim Australia.com
EdmondsonAlexanderAmaysim Australia.com
KwiatkowskiMichalBinance
PaulinhoPedro MiguelBinance
YudhaMuhammadBinance
PalyiCsabaBinance
MatsangosAlexandrosBinance
MengoulasAlexBinance
VanbilsenKennethBinance
Van LerbergheBertBinance
RojasHenry AntonioCarlsberg - Danske Bank
EgNiklasCarlsberg - Danske Bank
KrigbaumMathiasCarlsberg - Danske Bank
PerDavidCarlsberg - Danske Bank
MestricMatijaCarlsberg - Danske Bank
ResellErik NordsaeterCarlsberg - Danske Bank
CannisterGoldwijnnCarlsberg - Danske Bank
HnikKarelCarlsberg - Danske Bank
GauduDavidCedevita
SvabJernejCedevita
GovekarMatevzCedevita
HocevarKristjanCedevita
SiricIvanCedevita
WrightFredCedevita
PoljanecMihaCedevita
StojnicVeljkoCedevita
RomoJaviercycleYorkshire
HolmesMatthewcycleYorkshire
AlbaneseVincenzocycleYorkshire
SkaarsethAnderscycleYorkshire
BalleriniDavidecycleYorkshire
BarbariAdelcycleYorkshire
ValterAttilaEA Vesuvio
GenietsKevinEA Vesuvio
BaxSjoerdEA Vesuvio
GodoyCaioEA Vesuvio
WirtgenLucEA Vesuvio
SmitWillieEA Vesuvio
AlaphilippeJulianEA Vesuvio
KoretzkyClementELCO - ABEA
VilaAimilianoELCO - ABEA
VincentLeoELCO - ABEA
MiltiadisAndreasELCO - ABEA
SouliousZisisELCO - ABEA
KastrantasCharalampasELCO - ABEA
ChristapopoulosPangiotisELCO - ABEA
StavrakakisGeorgiosELCO - ABEA
LopezMiguel AngelEvonik - ELKO
BlumsMartinsEvonik - ELKO
KochMichelEvonik - ELKO
PolancJanEvonik - ELKO
FossTobiasEvonik - ELKO
Van der HaarLarsEvonik - ELKO
VisserLouisEvonik - ELKO
CarcuevaJonelGazelle
KonradPatrickGazelle
BernardJulienGazelle
WarcholBartoszGazelle
LanderSebastianGazelle
TeunissenMikeGazelle
De GendtAimeGrieg-Maersk
Van GestelDriesGrieg-Maersk
VingegaardJonasGrieg-Maersk
TillerRasmusGrieg-Maersk
HvidebergJonas IversbyGrieg-Maersk
StokbroAndreasGrieg-Maersk
EekhoffNilsGrieg-Maersk
VakocPetrISA - Hexacta
Cepeda HernandezJeffersonISA - Hexacta
RestrepoJhonatanISA - Hexacta
Parra BustamenteHeiner RodrigoISA - Hexacta
SagivGuyISA - Hexacta
RedyDylanISA - Hexacta
SanogoAbouISA - Hexacta
ChokriEl MehdiISA - Hexacta
QuitaRonnilanKing Power
KasperkiewiczPrzemyslawKing Power
MentenMilanKing Power
FerreiraRicardoKing Power
DarbinyanVarshamKing Power
GraniganNoahKing Power
Van der PoelMathieuLidl Cycling
SalzmannJodokLidl Cycling
StewartJakeLidl Cycling
GeeDerekLidl Cycling
CasillasJhonatanLidl Cycling
PhonarjthanPatompobLidl Cycling
KinoshitaTomohiroMinions
SlagterTom JelteMinions
MarcosLeandroMinions
SweeckLaurensMinions
De WitteMathiasMinions
BolivarIsaacMinions
FilutasViktorMOL Cycling Team
DinaMartonMOL Cycling Team
DonovanMarkMOL Cycling Team
AlturMarcosMOL Cycling Team
StancuGeorge AlexandruMOL Cycling Team
KenyeresAbelMOL Cycling Team
MoriczDanielMOL Cycling Team
KhederiSouheilMoser - Sygic
NeumanDominikMoser - Sygic
HoflandMorenoMoser - Sygic
StocekMatusMoser - Sygic
ToupalikAdamMoser - Sygic
BorosMichaelMoser - Sygic
Le RouxRomainPolar
CarpenterRobinPolar
CheungKing LokPolar
ViennetEmilienPolar
KrulStefPolar
LaukKarl PatrickPolar
GertsFlorisRabobank
ChampoussinClementRabobank
MartinGuillaumeRabobank
PedersenCasperRabobank
GoldsteinOmerRabobank
Van den BergJuliusRabobank
HerklotzSilvioTeam Puma - SAP
MadouasValentinTeam Puma - SAP
EggerMike AaronTeam Puma - SAP
SchinnagelJohannesTeam Puma - SAP
FortunatoLorenzoTeam Puma - SAP
RutschJonasTeam Puma - SAP
BuchmannEmanuelTeam UBS - Tissot
MüllerPatrickTeam UBS - Tissot
BadilattiMatteoTeam UBS - Tissot
SchellingPatrickTeam UBS - Tissot
SequeraPedroTeam UBS - Tissot
StöckliJanTeam UBS - Tissot
BrunNilsTeam UBS - Tissot
BalmerAlexandreTeam UBS - Tissot
SkujinsTomsTinkoff - La Datcha Team
ChernetskiySergeyTinkoff - La Datcha Team
SulimovAlexanderTinkoff - La Datcha Team
SenechalFlorianTinkoff - La Datcha Team
KamyshevArmanTinkoff - La Datcha Team
OrueGerman AnibalTinkoff - La Datcha Team
ManakovViktorTinkoff - La Datcha Team
WaeytensZicoTrans Looney Tunes
BystromSven ErikTrans Looney Tunes
CalmejaneLilianTrans Looney Tunes
MinKyeng HoTrans Looney Tunes
SobreroMatteoTrans Looney Tunes
MurnBostjanTrans Looney Tunes
TulettBenTrans Looney Tunes
KatrasnikGasperTrans Looney Tunes
BorgesBrunoZARA - Irizar
FinklerLeonardo HenriqueZARA - Irizar
MiquelPauZARA - Irizar
De La Cruz ChapulinLuis FernandoZARA - Irizar
SamHenry AlbertoZARA - Irizar
GilmoreBradyZARA - Irizar



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redordead
Maybe Gaudu can get a top 20, but that's about it.

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Imladrik
ALso, Bets are open!


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tsmoha
Probably one of only a few chances for McCarthy to get a decent result. He hasn't done too well so far this season, but hopefuly he can bounce back and repeat last year's result here!
 
ember
A podium will be brilliant, a top 5 the goal, and a top 10 the must. Definitely pressure here for Mohoric, as it's one of few days that should suit him very well this season.

Not much to do about MAL and Herklotz, fingers crossed we get a huge fight for the win amongst those two. Behind, Mohoric must fancy his chances, I'd say, fingers crossed he's on a good day and can fight for the final podium spot!
 
jaxika
Hoping for a good breakaway for our absolutely outsider team.
 
SotD
First tell in the tale of whether Koretzky is a worthy leader or not. Atleast he has a very solid team of helpers around him, so maybe we can strike some luck like we did last season with Kastrantas. A rider like Soulious or perhaps Vila or Vincent are pretty well equipped to snatch some minor points.

The competition is fierce though, so best not get the hopes up too high.
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knockout
First big race of the season for us. A good result is important as we are lacking results so far and would be far behind comparable teams already if not. Not sure if a top 2 result is as sure as the preview makes it look but thats of course the goal
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Luis Leon Sanchez
Thanks for the cool preview!

Borges realistically can't aim much higher than a Top 10 which would be a great result! He does, however, have the highest ACC of those listed so if it's not too tough then maybe a fast finish can grab an insane result. A supporting cast of U25s is going to be a familiar sight for us. Hopefully a chance for a breakaway showing.

Good luck all Wink
 
baseballlover312
We sent a dev squad here. And looking at the startlist, i can't say we made the wrong choice. With neither Tirreno nor Paris-Nice offering much puncheur GC opportunity, this was always gonna be stacked.

A breakaway appearance would be cool.
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tastasol
Second bbl here. Not a team roster that the others will be afraid of, so hopefully some break action and all of our guys finishing the race.
 
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cio93
Decided to give this a shot with Silvio for the first time!

It'll be exciting to see him face MAL for the one of the rare duels, although a win is not expected here.

Ideally we should start his schedule with a podium though, and I'm optimistic we can get it done.
The hills are longer than in other puncheur classics, and good descending is vital to get into the necessary front position before the final climb to the line.
 
Marcovdw
Kinoshita better proves he's worth that million bucks.
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alexkr00
That's a really poor display from Gerts in his first showing of the Dutch jersey and the newest edition of the game, in a race that I thought is not too mountainous and where he had great results in the past. Any chance weather could be affecting riders?

But Champoussin saves the day for us. Really hopeful for his future with this result.
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Well I guess that answers that question. Neither Farantakis, Coquard or Koretzky works in the version of the game.
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knockout
I'll happily take it. Of course a win would have been cool but 2nd is well within expectations and the rest of the team showed up with Blums taking 10th, Polanc 19th and both Foss and Koch finishing top 50. That's almost better than a race victory. In fact i think we might have outscored Puma here by a point Grin



Apparently, we somehow ended up with carmine red for our bike, helmet and accessories instead of the expected yellow. I suspect that might have been part of the reasoning why i struggled so much to spot my riders in the peleton in the January races. I thought they were simply not riding near the front of the peleton because those races would suck for us anyway :lol:
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baseballlover312
Congrats to cio! 37th for Eg is something, and Per with a nice debut tune up in 52nd. The nice thing about PT races is there are no zero pointers. Pfft

Thanks for the report!
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Marcovdw
Oh god the puncheur curse is back

Thanks for the report Imladrik and congrats cio!
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jandal7
Very cool moment to see Herklotz vs Lopez and even if this isn't the route for a ding-dong battle at least we did see the cream rise to the top. And as knockout said even if MAL had to settle for second place Blums and Polanc with great great rides to provide some valuable depth scoring!
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redordead
Gaudu made the crucial split like I hoped he would. If he can place in the top 20 in the hilly classics for most of the season, then that would be pretty good Smile

Thanks for the report Imladrik.

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