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"Be a Pro" using automatic mode
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| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 16-09-2014 14:39
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Has someone tried doing a "Be a Pro" career by only racing the races that your selected rider is attending and setting your team mates to automatic?
I want to try this, but I don't want to waste time on something that doesn't work any way, so any feedback would be much appreciated. |
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 16-09-2014 14:53
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haven't tried a real career but played a lot on automatic.
don't think it will work, getting someone in a morning break is extremely hard and I think that the teamleaders will rarely attack to make a gap, they just follow in the peloton.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 16-09-2014 15:57
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Automatic mode works very well.
But you'll have to work out your contract as a team manager.
In race it'll work perfectly. Your team will act as AI and you can manage just fine by only using your rider. |
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| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 16-09-2014 18:32
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Yeah, it's not 100% be a pro because you'll still have to do the management part and set the strategy before every race. I'm gonna give it a try in stage race mode first to see in which way your team mates follow the strategy determined before every stage.
Another question: Which rider do you think answers best to these criteria?
Relatively young talent (preferably Belgian but not necessarily so) who is not an absolute leader in his team or a favourite in his terrain but gets a free role often enough and at least has some potential to grow. Preferably someone who is not a pure climber or sprinter.
Some (Belgian) examples that jump to my mind are Wellens, Stuyven, Van Keirsbulck, (maybe) Keukeleire etc.. I don't have a preference in team or division. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 17-09-2014 09:09
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That's really up to you.
But you give some good names to start with.
Personally I'd go with Wellens or Vervaecke. Both Lotto and both will get a free role in most races because of Jurgen VDB "slacking". |
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| Cycleman123 |
Posted on 17-09-2014 10:02
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Wellens/Keukeleire.
While I only say Keukeleire because I'm an Orica supporter, I think he would be good for this sort of thing; even better if you're planning on a story.
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| matt17br |
Posted on 17-09-2014 12:26
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I'd go with Wellens because he's good in every field and he will get easily free roles or leader role in minor races.
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 17-09-2014 19:30
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This is actually a pretty decent idea. Might as well try it myself. Would be nice if you put some feedback on how does it work and is AI doing the job on a proper way. 
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| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 19-09-2014 13:02
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Something to consider: I think this works best on normal mode. I'll have to test it out though.
On hard or extreme, your team mates will be AI but without the stat advantage. I've seen riders like Kittel and Cavendish survive hills that totally drained Greipel to the point that he couldn't compete for the sprint any more and just fell off the back of the peloton.
I'm also considering playing with both Yates brothers.
Edited by MartijnVDD on 19-09-2014 20:50
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| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 21-09-2014 16:53
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Small update:
There's no logic to the AI team mates. Important riders (GC leader, sprinter) drop back to fetch water bottles at crucial moments. They're also able to do stuff they shouldn't be able to do like following a rider outside the usual 9/18kms before the sprint/finish or fetching bottles inside the last 10kms. At one point, I even saw Matthews dropping back for water inside 10kms when he was in pole position to win the stage.
I'm also under the impression that the AI from other teams don't use up their yellow and red bars where AI team mates do. For example, when you're inside 18kms, you often see sprinters sprint from the back all the way to the front to sit in their leadout's wheel. When my sprinter does this, he's burned completely and can't compete any more while other sprinters can. This even happened when playing on easy.
You can get around some of this stuff by simulating the stages that are useless to your rider or GC leader, but then the results can be rather surprising.
Focusing on a single rider is fun though, as long as you don't give a **** about the rest of your team.
I'll try a career as soon as the new PCM Daily EP is released. |
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| TiemenD |
Posted on 20-01-2015 09:19
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Sorry for bringing up this old topic, but putting all cyclists on automatic mode does not make them behave exactly the same like an AI team right?
Because I was thinking about just doing the management part of the game, decide the pre-race strategy and just watch my cyclists on automatic mode in the 3D race.
But if this means that they will act more stupid then the AI teams and have less chance of winning, this is not an option offcourse. |
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| Cycleman123 |
Posted on 20-01-2015 09:25
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Well you'd have to set the strategy very well, but yes they would be worse.
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| Lachi |
Posted on 20-01-2015 12:45
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Cycleman123 wrote:
Well you'd have to set the strategy very well, but yes they would be worse.
Do you mean "They would be worse than the AI riders" or "They would be worse compared to controlling them yourself" |
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| TiemenD |
Posted on 21-01-2015 07:56
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I'm waiting for the pcmdaily v2.1 update before starting my career.
meanwhile I've tested some stages in single stage mode and all cyclists automatic mode for the entire race. (I was Quick-Step)
First stage TDF: Cavendish won sprint
Milan Sanremo: Cavendish was placed in 4th position in wheel of greipel before sprint started, but ran out of energy at the 1k mark, ended just outside top 10
Paris Roubaix: Boonen ended 8th, terpstra 10th
Mountain Stage TDF (2 mountains,finish on top of second): Uran ended second behind Froome, together with Contador |
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 21-01-2015 09:18
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Has difficulty been mentioned before this, because Automatic riders probably have a set ability that doesn't take into account the AI ability.
"What done is, is one." - Benji Naesen
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| TiemenD |
Posted on 21-01-2015 09:20
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Yes I've seen it somewhere in this thread. I've done my testing on difficulty normal |
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 21-01-2015 09:22
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Thinking about that, the riders on your team that are controlled by AI are probably set at normal difficulty, so to have them race well, you have to race at that difficulty.
"What done is, is one." - Benji Naesen
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 21-01-2015 09:23
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Lachi wrote:
Cycleman123 wrote:
Well you'd have to set the strategy very well, but yes they would be worse.
Do you mean "They would be worse than the AI riders" or "They would be worse compared to controlling them yourself"
With higher difficulty they'll be worse than AI. Worse compared to controlling them yourself really depends on how well/bad you play  |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 21-01-2015 09:50
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Which then translates to: When using automatic mode on normal difficulty, the own riders are as good as the AI, right?
Edited by Lachi on 21-01-2015 09:50
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 21-01-2015 09:50
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Yes, I believe so. |
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