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Vuelta a España

Race Profile


Welcome to Spain and welcome to the second GT of the year! The organizers have once again done a marvellous job creating a very interesting route in Spain, which includes six flat stages, seven hilly stages, seven mountain stages and two individual time trials combining a total of 66 km. Although the route (explained more in detail in this thread: https://pcmdaily....t_1365370) should be good for defending champion pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/akm.png Taaramäe, he won’t be back. There are only two former winners present, both of them being here with a wildcard: pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Tenorio and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Gesink. The line-up is not the strongest a GT has seen, which will give the opportunity to some lower rated climbers to score massive points for their teams. Let’s have a look at the climbers and GC riders who have made the trip to southern Spain, where La Vuelta will start tomorrow.

pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinier857577788079
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Tenorio847680787679
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/tti.png Kritskiy837479777576
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/akm.png Galta817373787977
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/bnm.png Haig817477767578
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Gesink817978757777
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/kng.png Reis817376787678
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/mos.png Hirt817473777979
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/rak.png Shikai817176747678
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ubs.png Schelling807572757673
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/aeg.png Velits797271696867
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/eav.png Godoy797667757677
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/eav.png Kirsch797471757375
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Bongiorno797568777777
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gzl.png Formolo797969767674
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/isa.png Anacona797466757274
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/pum.png Arndt797656777672
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/vlv.png Faglum Karlsson797373787576
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/aeg.png Valls787471777676
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ebd.png Brambilla787569747274
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/evo.png Vosekalns787562697372
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gzl.png Sosnitskiy787264737768
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/grm.png Nesset787369777674
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ino.png Elissonde787363767779
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ino.png Warchol787467767773
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/isa.png Campero787069757072
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/kng.png Smith787568727475

pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinier is on a mission to win his first GT and he has a very decent shot at doing so. He is the best climber of the pack and can handle the other favourites in the hills as well. He is also a good time trialist, so there’s no reason to think he shouldn’t be able to complete his mission and be the one finishing in red in Madrid three weeks from now.

There are two riders that can also be classified as top favourites and will do everything they can to keep the Frenchman from winning his first GT though. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Tenorio is here on a wildcard, as mentioned above, and has the experience of winning this race, which he did in 2013. He is not only the best time trialist among the favourites, he is also the best time trialist coming to Spain. 66 time trial kilometres are not nothing, and could prove to be the deciding factor for the chances of the Spanish champion. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/tti.png Kritskiy is defending the colours of Team Tinkoff, and although he might be slightly worse in the mountains than the other top favourites, he will also be able to gain some time on pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinier when on the time-trial bike.

pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Gesink, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/bnm.png Haig, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/kng.png Reis and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/rak.png Shikai are the next riders on the list. They are all competent GC riders with a good time trial in their legs, but the Dutchman, who won the Vuelta in 2016 as part of eBuddy, clearly has an advantage over the others with his skillset in the hills. A top-3 will not be easy for him, but if he’s feeling good he could very well be the biggest threat to the three big favourites for a podium place.

pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/mos.png Hirt, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/akm.png Galta and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ubs.png Schelling are the other top-10 contenders, but when they have a look at the startlist their managers will be dreaming of even a top-5. They’re not exceptionally strong in the hills or on a time-trial bike, but are still some very solid riders.

Looking at the other names on the list, there are not a lot of names who should be a real threat for the top-10 places, except for one rider maybe. Longer mountains at a solid pace or shorter hills going quickly are both not a problem for pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gzl.png Formolo, while the latter might be difficult for some names above him. One problem for the Italian though, just as most of the other names below him he will be losing time during the two time trials.

The hills play an important part in the Vuelta as well, and although several stages will go to the breakaway, the puncheurs will also have their shot at stage glory. Let’s have a look at the puncheurs who will be participating.

pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/evo.png Skujins70836876807773
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/vlv.png Jensen70806676777371
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Gesink81795965757777
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gzl.png Formolo79796971767674
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ubs.png Reichenbach73796369766973
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Yates70797780777073
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gen.png Teuns75786672737376
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/yor.png Bellis68787475807169
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ubs.png MĂĽller64786570747069
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/isa.png Sepulveda75777073747371
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/pum.png Mager74776071687071
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Budyak73775767726672
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gzl.png Tratnik73776170747570
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Errazkin72776372747374
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Tenorio84765967787679
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/eav.png Godoy79765975757677
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/pum.png Arndt79767175777672
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gzl.png Vysna77765371727570
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/evo.png Sergis75765870697373
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/bnm.png Lane74766373706872
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/mos.png Cerny70767579756766

One name really stands out, and that is pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/evo.png Skujins, as there shouldn’t be a breakaway winning in the third and fourth stage, the Latvian has a very real chance at capturing the red jersey. His biggest rival might come from Denmark, as pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/vlv.png Jensen is a very similar rider in many aspects, although he should still be clearly the weaker puncheur of the two.

There are also some GC riders on the list who could aim at that red jersey and stage wins in the hills such as pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Gesink and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gzl.png Formolo, but also pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Tenorio.

One thing is certain though, everyone should avoid going to the finish with Tenorio’s teammate pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Yates, who is clearly the strongest sprinter among the puncheurs. He’s actually such a decent sprinter that he might be joining the peloton sprints as well, could the green jersey be going to the UK?

pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ubs.png Reichenbach and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gen.png Teuns should be the only riders left to really have a shot at winning when a group with the riders on the list above go into a stage finale when a breakaway is not minutes ahead.

Now we’ve mentioned the green jersey, let’s have a look at the riders who should be joining the peloton sprints.

pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ebd.png Grosu738380747079
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/evo.png Eislers778076767674
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/rak.png Hayakawa737979756876
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/mos.png Soupe727977726976
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/vlv.png Stallaert777976766880
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/isa.png Harrison727881737076
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/evo.png Liepins737879736877
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Bouglas727878726776
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/rak.png Liu727878756779
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/kng.png Jakobsen727878737279
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/vlv.png Halvorsen747878727078
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Yates747780777073
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/akm.png Silva757778697077
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ino.png Markus737778746878
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Merlier727774717164

Once again, one name really stands out: there are absolutely no excuses for pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ebd.png Grosu to not win several stages and take the red jersey in the opening stage. Except for him, it should depend on daily form who will be scoring the most points. The most dangerous names to do so should be pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/evo.png Eislers, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/rak.png Hayakawa, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/mos.png Soupe, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/vlv.png Stallaert, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/isa.png Harrison and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/evo.png Liepins. Of course we can’t forget about pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Yates, as mentioned earlier. In the past five editions, the green jersey was always won by the same rider who won the GC. Time for a change?

There are two time trials which combine 66 km to be conquered by the riders. Most of the best time-trialists are riders who will be looking to get a good GC result as well. Let’s see who the other time-trialists are.

pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Tenorio80787679
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/tti.png Kritskiy79777576
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Fraile79747672
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ino.png Ligthart78726668
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Gesink78757777
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinier77788079
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/vlv.png Tanfield77727369
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/bnm.png Haig77767578
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/eav.png Goos76787576
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/mos.png Danacik76757274
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/rak.png Onodera76737369
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/rak.png Shikai76747678
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/kng.png Reis76787678

pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Tenorio, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/tti.png Kritskiy and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Fraile are the best time trialists. Desigual brings two home riders, with the former the biggest favourite to win the two time trials.

Ignoring the GC riders, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ino.png Ligthart and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/vlv.png Tanfield should be the best time trialists, but the two of them don’t recover as well as some other specialists on the list, such as pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/eav.png Goos and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/mos.png Danacik. Nevertheless, the time trials remain pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Tenorio’s to lose.

Of course, in a GT, there will always be multiple breakaways winning some stages, so not every stage winner will be included on the lists above. That’s why the full startlist is shown below as well. Good luck to every manager and teams participating. Que la Fuerza te acompañe.


Edited by Nemolito on 13-02-2021 11:52
Stage podiums

Stage 1pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/isa.png Harrisonpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/kng.png Jakobsenpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Bouglas
Stage 2pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ebd.png Grosupcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/rak.png Hayakawapcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/isa.png Harrison
Stage 3pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Yatespcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinierpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Gesink
Stage 4pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinierpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Tenoriopcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Gesink
Stage 5pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ebd.png Grosupcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/mos.png Soupepcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/isa.png Harrison
Stage 6pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/iso.png Tarvispcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/evo.png Skujinspcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Gesink
Stage 7pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/afk.png Roschpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/kng.png Quitapcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/bnm.png Harper
Stage 8pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/eav.png Smitpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gen.png Rodriguespcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/iso.png Bizkarra
Stage 9pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Tenoriopcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/eav.png Goospcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/bnm.png Haig
Stage 10pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/eav.png Smitpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/bnm.png Davidpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/vlv.png Jensen
Stage 11pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinierpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Tenoriopcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/tti.png Kritskiy
Stage 12pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/aeg.png Ballerinipcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/pum.png Meilerpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/pum.png Oka
Stage 13pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Gesinkpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Tenoriopcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gzl.png Formolo
Stage 14pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/iso.png Novakpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gen.png Sequerapcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/iso.png Kozhatayev
Stage 15pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/mos.png Pradopcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinierpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/kng.png Smith
Stage 16pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/kng.png Smithpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/pum.png Arndtpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ebd.png Brambilla
Stage 17pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/mos.png Pradopcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Frailepcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/kng.png Reis
Stage 18pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ino.png Warcholpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/kng.png Smithpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/isa.png Sepulveda
Stage 19pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/kng.png Boonratanathanakornpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/pum.png Magerpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/aeg.png Valls
Stage 20pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/mos.png Hirtpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/vlv.png Faglum Karlssonpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/eav.png Kirsch
Stage 21pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/isa.png Harrisonpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ebd.png Grosupcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Yates


1pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/isa.png Harrisonpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/isa.png Harrisonpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/aeg.png Toupalikpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/kng.png Jakobsen
2pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/isa.png Harrisonpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ebd.png Grosupcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/aeg.png Toupalikpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/aeg.png Toupalik
3pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/isa.png Harrisonpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ebd.png Grosupcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/aeg.png Toupalikpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/aeg.png Toupalik
4pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinierpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ebd.png Grosupcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/aeg.png Toupalikpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/aeg.png van der Poel
5pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinierpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ebd.png Grosupcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/aeg.png Toupalikpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/aeg.png van der Poel
6pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinierpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ebd.png Grosupcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/aeg.png Toupalikpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/aeg.png van der Poel
7pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinierpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ebd.png Grosupcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/aeg.png Toupalikpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/aeg.png Toupalik
8pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/eav.png Smitpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ebd.png Grosupcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/aeg.png Toupalikpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/aeg.png Toupalik
9pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Tenoriopcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ebd.png Grosupcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/aeg.png Toupalikpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/aeg.png van der Poel
10pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/eav.png Smitpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ebd.png Grosupcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/aeg.png Toupalikpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/aeg.png van der Poel
11pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Tenoriopcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ebd.png Grosupcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ino.png Elissondepcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/eav.png Godoy
12pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Tenoriopcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ebd.png Grosupcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ino.png Elissondepcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/eav.png Godoy
13pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Tenoriopcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ebd.png Grosupcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ino.png Elissondepcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/eav.png Godoy
14pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Tenoriopcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ebd.png Grosupcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/iso.png Novakpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/eav.png Godoy
15pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinierpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinierpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/iso.png Novakpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/eav.png Godoy
16pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinierpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinierpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/iso.png Novakpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/eav.png Godoy
17pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinierpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinierpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/iso.png Novakpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/eav.png Godoy
18pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinierpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinierpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/iso.png Novakpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/eav.png Godoy
19pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinierpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinierpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/iso.png Novakpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/eav.png Godoy
20pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinierpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinierpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/iso.png Novakpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/eav.png Godoy
21pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinierpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinierpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/iso.png Novakpcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/eav.png Godoy

Podium places - riders

pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fes.png Lecuisinier224
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ebd.png Grosu213
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/isa.png Harrison224
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/eav.png Smit22
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/mos.png Prado22
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Tenorio134
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/kng.png Smith1113
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Gesink134
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/des.png Yates112
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/iso.png Tarvis11
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/afk.png Rosch11
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/aeg.png Ballerini11
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/iso.png Novak11
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ino.png Warchol11
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/kng.png Boonratanathanakorn11
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/mos.png Hirt11
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/kng.png Jakobsen11
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/rak.png Hayakawa11
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/mos.png Soupe11
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/evo.png Skujins11
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Edited by Nemolito on 07-03-2021 09:22
Wait what!? No Phinney???

That chances the situation quite drastically towards a “must” win race. This really is a surprisingly weak race lineup. Even Bongiorno and Bouglas could on paper do well here.

I fear breakaway Bonanza once again though!

Our line-up is really comic with a podium contender + nobody else of quality. It should be enough for an interesting race nonthelesse.

Lecuisinier the no.1 favourite but with some interesting candidates in Kristskiy and especially Tenorio. Looking forward to it.

Thanks for the great preview Nemo!
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Grosu by far the best sprinter here Shock

You know what that means? You guessed it right, it's my turn to bitch about the breakaways.
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Thanks for the preview!

Just hoping for a good GC result by Haig, who should be capable to fight for the Top-5 again. After what we got from the Giro, we do need more scoring through stages here though. Obviously hoping for our team to be in the breakaway matrix then. Another low scoring GT despite having a GC contender wouldn't be good at all.
Ooh weak startlist, could mean as SotD said a breakaway riders’ Mecca. Two top-15 climbers here should mean some interesting 2nd-3rd week breaks they hopefully will be a feature in. Lecuisner’s to lose, but a really interesting fight for 4th.
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With the team I got here, I suppose a similar scenario to how the Giro played out wouldn't hurt my team if, say, Masnada or Rodrigues were our very own Maleckis. Thanks for taking on the Vuelta Nemo!
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Possibly I should've brought Roglic here. Let's hope for loads of breakaways.
Aranburu and Asgreen both getting a chance to ride on the big stage here. With the Giro in the bag and Galta as a favorite but not the favorite, wondering it Alex might get a shot or two in a breakaway. Would be cool. Smile
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I clearly picked the wrong GT for Olivier...both Giro in especially and Vuelta as well would have seen him fight for a top5 even. On paper though Valls or Velits can again reach the top15 here. Seeing how the Giro went, I expect Valls to be the stronger but hopefully both are more active in breaks in the third week as the Giro was not very kind to them in those stages being passed by plenty of break riders.

Other than that pretty much same lineup as in the Giro with Caboni, Ciccone and Koep being there for the mountain stages, let`s hope they are actually taken as break options in the first two weeks this time.

van der Poel hopefully doing Giro things again while Toupalik and Ballerini are also decent break riders. Likely better options than Boom and Frison were in the Giro.

Stages 3 and 8 might actually be decent for Van der Poel.

Lecuisinier will have an easy GT win here, simply no one coming close with Tenorio maybe able to challenge a bit and Kritskiy will get a 2nd easy GT podium this season. Smart GT choices by Tinkoff here, which might really save them in the end.
Don't really know what to expect here... Lecuisinier has been great and Tenorio rather poor this year, but with basically just the mountain stat in Lecuisinier's favor and the big amount of TT kilometers, I could still imagine the Spaniard taking a second Vuelta win. Especially if the mountain stages are as lame as in the Giro, Tenorio (and Kritskiy) basically "just" have to keep up in the mountains and then make the difference in the TT.
On the other hand, Giro winner Taaramäe is only one stat point stronger than Kritskiy in the mountains, but still easily won. But if we get a "normal" race without any major AI jokes, these three should take the podium.

Of course, I would also support Matt's scenario - Masnada as a GT winner sounds great! But then I don't know how to fit his wage demands into my budget Pfft

I'd say overall the startlist is still not great, but slightly stronger than in the Giro. But I wonder what awaits us in the Tour then... Madrazo, Herklotz, Phinney, Morton, Dombrowski, Alarcon... None of them have done a GT so far...

Thanks for the preview and for taking on the Vuelta, Nemo!
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Of course, I would also support Matt's scenario - Masnada as a GT winner sounds great! But then I don't know how to fit his wage demands into my budget Pfft

Which is also why I'd rather have one of the loanees be my Malecki Pfft
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Wow startlist is super weak. We could realistically win a stage or two in the sprints and if extremely luck even a TT. Obviously also hoping for a Top 10 from Shikai, but theres a lot of riders in his range of stats, but the fact Hayakawa is the 3rd best sprinter is just crazy to me, and Liu as backup as well. If anyone is gonna pull a Malecki, Im hoping it will be loan-in Brozyna, he's from the right country after all Pfft

Costagli sucked if Im being honest at the Giro, excluding his stage win, but I think Shikai has better support here with Brozyna, Shirota, Iino and Hatsuyama. If they aren't going to support him, hopefully they can atleast get into breakaways and win multiple stages.
That startlist looks super interesting for me.

Eislers being clearcut #2 sprinter is super surprising to me. Thought the chance for red would lead to some big names attending. I do have two other sprinters here so Becis - Liepins - Eislers could form a sprint train but i dont think Liepins fits particularly well as an Eislers leadout and had hoped that both would sprint on their own. Though i suspect that both of them will have to help in the chasing as i didnt really bring the strongest flat support either. Had i known that Eislers would be so high on the list of sprinters, i would surely have brought one of my bigger engines for the flat stages. Either someone like Stoltz or maybe Dzamastagic instead of Liepins for both a better leadout and more power on the flat. Seeing my lineup as one of the expected chasers could mean an increased chance for breaks on the flat stages and since an early succesful break would ruin the big goal we have set ourself for this race (red for Skujins), I would rather have seen one or two more big names at the startline with a committed sprint support team.

Then its time for Skujins. I wrote it already in my HQ before seeing the startlist that i sent him here as the face of our team with the clear goal of claiming red on stage 3 which could set us up for a nice haul. When i saw the profile, i knew immediately that i wanted to send a leader here but i had a hard time deciding which of Skujins, Lopez and Van Stayen would be the best bet for this race - Not sure whether i picked the right one but being able to cover a couple of hilly races with Lopez certainly helped freeing up enough race days for Skujins. I feel like i have a solid support team for him, especially if Tvetcov, Mas and Vosekalns will be treated as support for him in the first week instead of treating Tvetcov as a proper GC leader and the other ones as climbers who save themselves for whatever reason (which was a big reason for sending Tvetcov here instead of Chiarello since Chiarello surely wouldnt have worked for Skujins). Not seeing a single other top puncheur basically polarizes our scoring here - it increases the chance of getting stage wins + red early but it also increases the chance that we leave completely empty-handed with breaks stealing all the big points away from us.

In the mountains, Tvetcov is our GC leader but i certainly hope to see him as an attacker who joins breaks too as he shouldnt be good enough for a super high GC result anyway. Though seeing the number of climbers without tt skills above him in the start list, i see solid chances to reach the top 20 - especially if he ends up joining some right breaks. Vosekalns as always should attack on the mountainous stages and ideally go for the KoM too just like Mas and Sergis should be aggressiv too. But all of them are also here to make sure that Skujins will get into a situation where he can score the big points.

Huge, huge chance for Festina. Lecuisinier could shot them right back into a great PT rankings situation if he does well enough here. He is definitely the clear cut favourite here.

Please no break victories on flat stages or early hilly stages Pfft
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Going to root for Reis to avenge his bad Giro luck and because McCormick's Thomas Revard makes his GT debut for King Power.

Sprint field is interesting, Keough would be the 4th sprinter on that list yet at the C2 Ras Tailteann he was so far down the favorite list he didn't even contest the sprints. Hopefully the PT teams decide to reinvest in sprinters next year.
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Should be a good race for Lecuisinier.

Nesset should have a good chance for a decent GC result again. A weaker team this time around, but hopefully that won't be too important.
Lecuisinier is the overwhelming favourite here, and as knockout points out, this is a great chance for Festina to get right back in contention for the PT title, maybe even to take command and lead the way, as this is a chance to claim first place with solid gaps to the other top teams.

Kind of surprised to see such a "weak" lineup. Galta should be very capable of fighting for a top 5 here, which would be a great surprise. Not too sure he can manage though, as PCM 18 doesn't seem to be kind to him. Last season, and also this season so far, he seems to struggle a lot when he rides like a captain, but he has been brilliant when attacking for stages and KoM (last year's TdF as a great example). Admittedly I hoped for the latter when I put him both here and in the Tour, but judging by the quality in this field, I suspect he'll ride a defensive race. Fingers crossed he gets good daily forms on key stages, if not, this will be a long race for us Pfft

Having Galta that high on the list of favourites also makes me wonder if we're allowed to join the breakaway party. That's the obvious key to GT points success, and we need to participate there to bring in solid points, I suspect.

Great to see you take on a GT, Nemolito! Looking forward to see the racing get underway Smile
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Thinking a little more about it we got a pretty awesome breakaway squad here in Gabburo and Tarvis for the lumpier stages and Bizkarra, Kozhatayev and white jersey candidate Novak on the climbs. Hopefully we can do something, though the race design should favour the bunch a little too often.
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