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Hong Kong Challenge


History

YearWinnerTeam
2019Vincenzo NibaliEuskaltel - Elior
2018Leopold KönigValio - DeLaval


Edition three of the Hong Kong Challenge, which will be held despite protests in the city and an increasing number of COVID cases. The past two years it was held at C2 level, but now it has been promoted to C1 status. The general concept of the race hasn't changed, a time trial sandwiched between two hilly stages. A total of 185 riders spread over 24 teams, at a ratio of 2:1 in favor of the PCT teams (16 vs 8). Our most recent winner Nibali cannot defend his title as his team Riccione did not receive an invite for this race, but inaugural winner Konig can become the first rider to win the race more than once, though one of the other 184 would love to become the third winner of the race.

Profiles

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The three stages take the riders across the entire country. The first stage starts on Lantau Island and finishes in downtown Hong Kong, but the riders have to conquer some hills. Especially in the final part of the stage, the hills follow each other in quick succession. The second stage is 20-kilometer long time trial which will be an important stage for the GC classification. The final stage takes the riders to the Tai Mo Shan Waterfall. This stage contains less hills than the first stage, but the finish is uphill on a climb close to mountainous, at least by previous results there.

Startlist

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pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/phi.png Kelderman827170pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/zal.png Denifl837571
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/pol.png Izagirre817477pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/mol.png Cattaneo827079
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/p4e.png Prevar807162pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/anh.png Preidler807858
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Borges807060pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/p4e.png Padun807765
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/cap.png Slagter797866pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/lph.png Seboka806253
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/azt.png Chaves797668pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fpc.png Yates797671
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/cen.png Moscon797366pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/lph.png Marquez797069
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/mol.png Gebrezgabihier797066pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/bnz.png Garby797068
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fpc.png Turgis796665pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/anh.png Konig787473
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/nca.png Dyrnes787261pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/trg.png Cort Nielsen787472
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gct.png Eiking786965pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/trg.png Lunke787273
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gct.png Flügel786962pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/cen.png Manfredi786565
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gct.png Mehr-Wenige786663pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/adp.png Borisavljevic777374
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/phi.png Watson786568pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/nca.png Faiers777074
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/vvg.png Kanerva786470pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/sct.png Nepomnyachsniy767376
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/xr0.png Areruya777765pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/bak.png Uwizeyimana767274
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/xr0.png Bazhkou756976pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/rpn.png Dunbar757575


Both puncheurs and climbers have a chance in this race, the first stage specialized for the former and the third for the latter. The time trial in between is also important, but a pure time trialists will lose much more on the other stages than a puncheur or climber on the time trial. Hence, we only look at the former two at contenders for the overall victory.

pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/phi.png Kelderman participates out of his CT comfort zone, but here he is the best puncheur as well. His time trial is good enough to avoid major time loss. The first stage is where he wants to gain his time, get in yellow jersey and defend from there on.

pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/pol.png Izagirre is his main challenger. The main advantage he has over the Dutchman is his time trial, which is the best amongst all puncheurs. Following the others on stage one, then striking on stage two and get enough of a gap to emerge victorious after stage three?

Moving over at the climbers side we have an almost identical favorite duo. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/zal.png Denifl is the best climber and not terrible on puncheurs and time trials. He has an opposite gameplan to Kelderman, limiting the loss on the first stages and going all-in on the final.

Then there is the variation which is better in time trials, in this case pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/mol.png Cattaneo. If he survives the first stage in relative good shape, the race is all his.

On both ends we also have two deuteragonists who excel in their specific discipline, but cannot get the aerodynamics right on the time trial bike. On the puncheurs side it are pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/p4e.png Prevar and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Borges, on the climbers side it are pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/anh.png Preidler and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/p4e.png Padun.

Riders are not limited to just being good on one discipline. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/cap.png Slagter is amongst the top in both hills and mountains, only his time trial limiting him from becoming an outright favorite. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/azt.png Chaves, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/xr0.png Areruya and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fpc.png Yates are similar riders, with only the latter bringing some time trial capabilities to the table.

pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/rpn.png Dunbar really cannot choose what his favorite discipline is, which in a race like this might be a real asset. Is he a puncheur, a climber, a time trialist? He is all three, and all qualities are necessary to win.

Special mention for former winner pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/anh.png Konig, who might not be likely to repeat his win but it wouldn't be entirely outlandish either. His only problem is that he most likely is not leader of his team, unless Adastra anticipates Preidler's time trial loss. The best rider who also participated last year is pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/adp.png Borisavljevic, though he only finished 22nd, six minutes behind his then-teammate Nibali.

FavoritesTTHLMOOutsidersTTHLMO
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fpc.png Paillot807170pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/p4e.png Golovash786060
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Howson806559pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/vvg.png Pokälä777164
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/rpn.png Gonzalez Salas806057pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Cornu776863
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/pol.png Mullen797062pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gsc.png Oram776456
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/adp.png Robert796057pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Archbold776258
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/phi.png Dumoulin786859pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/anh.png Marchewka776064
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/xr0.png Van Niekerk786761pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/afr.png Laizer775852
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/lph.png Sterbini786656pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/afr.png Kiflay766863
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/cap.png Sterobo786371pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/afr.png Hamza766352
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Dempster786353pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/p4e.png Kochetkov766064


These favorites do not include riders mentioned in the previous section, these are dedicated time trial specialists. Perhaps pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/fpc.png Paillot feels different though, as on a great day he might be able to follow the puncheurs, and he beats them all on the time trial.

Other riders who might make out-out-outsider status for a good GC position are pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/pol.png Mullen and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/vvg.png Pokälä, though they will have a hard time getting past Paillot.

Back to the pure specialists then, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Howson and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/rpn.png Gonzalez Salas are Paillot's main rivals for the stage two win. The time trial is mostly flat so the Frenchman cannot utilize his slight advantage of the hills.

A rider with previous experience on the course is pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/adp.png Robert. He finished eighth last year, twelve seconds down on winner Ratiy, by which he is the best classified returner. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/cap.png Sterobo also finished eighth the year before the year before. Do note that this was in a different race category.

Further contenders include pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/phi.png Dumoulin, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/xr0.png Van Niekerk, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/lph.png Sterbini, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Dempster and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/p4e.png Golovash, assuming they make the limit on the first stage.
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Fabianski
Coming back to the place where we claimed our first (and to date only) yellow jersey, after a win on stage one. Of course, it was C2, and of course we lost it in the ITT, but we're trying to live up to these memories again. Moscon will hopefully be among the best on stage one and put in some time to the better climbers, while Manfredi or Saggiorato (who's a decent puncheur as well) should be stronger on day three. Although I hope that Moscon can hold on with the best quite far up that hill, given his great resistance. Realistically, I guess we could be pretty happy with a Top15, a Top 10 being the optimum we could reach. Except if Pernsteiner gets a monster day on the first and the last stage, of course.

Overall, Izagirre or Cattaneo should take that one, as either should be able to limit the damage on the other's favorite terrain, and then it might come down to the ITT.

Thanks for the preview, Marco, looks like an interesting and wide open race Smile
 
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This is between Denifl and Cattaneo, Id be surprised if top 2 didnt include either. Good thing I sent TTers to Portugal, everyone else sent theirs here
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baseballlover312
Wow, huge startlist with a lot of CT big guns present. Gonna be interesting to see how this one goes.
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Hoping for a decent GC result from Gallopin and/or Uwizeyimana. Last stage could turn out to be a bit too tough for Gallopin, but we’ll see.

Izagirre is the favorite for me, I think. Looking forward to the reports!
 
Aquarius97
Very interesting race to show how good will Dunbar be when maxed. Any result for him is possible, but i think he should finish in the GC Top10. About the TT, hopefully Salas can win it, but a podium will do it too

Race can go in so many different ways, but i assume Izagirre won't lose this
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Strong startlist and obviously no Dan Martin for us but Borisavljevic suits this profile. Last year he was 4th going into the final stage and then sacrificed himself so that Nibali could take the win and the GC so we are technically defending champions!
 
Jakstar22
Might be able to get a top 10 but I’m not sure. Schultz could do well in the hills on day one and 3. Might struggle in the TT though. Garby could do well but this isn’t a race he is expected to shine in. Will be an interesting 3 stages!
 
AbhishekLFC
Always knew this would be a tricky race for Kelderman but the first stage is what we're aiming for. Beyond that, it's a case of limiting his losses to try and hold on for a good GC position. Also, hoping that Dumoulin can challenge for a high placing in the TT and to see us join a break or two for a change!

Thanks for the preview Smile
 
Nemolito
February has been terrible so far, and this race shouldn´t be better with our hill-capacities. The only chance of scoring some decent points would be winning the KoM, but that is raster said than done in such a field Pfft thanks for the preview!
 
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This field is extremly strong for sure!
Keldmerman will easily win first stage, and then it's up in the air for the last two.
Looking forward to this one Smile
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Here looking for stage wins, given we have Gesink occupied elsewhere.
Borges could do well perhaps but I have faith in our TTists, given that we have quite a fair number of them to take a good stage result.

Izagirre should be the man to beat I guess, with the climbers on hold to see how much of an impact MO has on the racing.

Thanks for the politically and epidemically updated preview Marco!
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What a ride from Preidler, congrats ivan! 3 min is massive, plus Konig in 6th.

Paillot in the main group is also an astonishing result. Izagirre is in quite the pickle now.

Not the stage we wished for, but we did only send Trillini as support for Borges. Also the mountainous character of this stage really proved to be crucial. Thankfully we didn't have GC ambitions here. Hoping for better luck tomorrow in the TT
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Fabianski
There it is, the first completely ridiculous result of my team. Lienhard in the main group, Moscon 8 minutes back... Sure. Don't know what happened here, but that must just be PCM logic. But well, PCM has already destroyed this race anyway, as the result wasn't just completely random for my team, but overall. Giving the Top 5 a 3 minute adavantage - check.

Congrats to Adastra, great team performance here. And Kelderman will get another huge result here for Philips, too.

Thanks for the report, Marco, guess I won't bother reading the next two, though.
 
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There it is, the first completely ridiculous result of my team. Lienhard in the main group, Moscon 8 minutes back... Sure. Don't know what happened here, but that must just be PCM logic. But well, PCM has already destroyed this race anyway, as the result wasn't just completely random for my team, but overall. Giving the Top 5 a 3 minute adavantage - check.

Congrats to Adastra, great team performance here. And Kelderman will get another huge result here for Philips, too.

Thanks for the report, Marco, guess I won't bother reading the next two, though.


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Ollfardh wrote:

To quote the Magikarp salesman: "Well, I don't give refunds!"

You don't need to, I'll happily keep him, as he'll surely get some good results this year. But today was just crappy - and the only explanation I have is that PCM considered Pernsteiner to be our leader and completely ignore Moscon. For whatever reason... Instead, he's beaten by Paillot - that sais it all Pfft
 
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Can't complain about that, hopefully Areruya puts in a good shift in the TT tomorrow to end on about level footing with the peloton behind, and then it can be down to the final stage. Good ride from him and also from a lot of Xero riders on the front, including Higuita doing some good work for Adastra in service of the winner today which I like to see Smile
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A stage win is not bad, but can Preidler hold onto the lead given his low TT stat? At least Konig got some 7 seconds on the peloton - will this haunt us in the end as well?
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Awesome stage, I love it! Congrats Ivan!
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