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Changing TTT to ITT
espana7
Hi,
I was wondering if it's possible to change ttt to itt, without zcts file. I have a good tdf variant, that includes ttt to la planche des belles filles. I think that's kind of a dumb idea, so I want to change it to itt, but i don't have the zcts file. So, is it somehow maybe possible?
 
tomcat9
espana7, hi!

You could try this: use any DB editor for PCM 2012 (Full Editor v4, PCM Fast Editor, LachisEditor etc). Open your Database, then find STA_stage table, find (or add) your stage and set value "2" for ITT in fkIDstage_type column.
Edited by tomcat9 on 02-06-2020 00:49
 
espana7
hi, thanks for your anwser. I tried it, but I don't know what am I not doing correctly, because I can't find the fkIDstage_type column in STA_stage.
Edited by espana7 on 02-06-2020 08:09
 
Tamijo
Honestly dont think you can do it without the zcts file
 
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Tamijo
Would suggest that you get Pro Cycling Manager 2015 (it 5 euro) where there is a huge amount of races, many with zcts.
 
tomcat9
espana7, as you can see, I opened 2012 official DBs (with Lachis v10) and found this column. But I don't know if it's changeable (i.e. will have an effect in the game, cos all values in DB are set to zero...), so you should test it.
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Edited by tomcat9 on 02-06-2020 11:00
 
TheManxMissile
tomcat9 wrote:
espana7, as you can see, I opened 2012 official DBs (with Lachis v10) and found this column. But I don't know if it's changeable (i.e. will have an effect in the game, cos all values in DB are set to zero...), so you should test it.


Unlikely to work. TTT vs ITT is primarily decided when placing the startline during stage creation itself, not a value modifyable in the DB.
This change might work, never tried it, but would certainly create some issues running the race in 3D mode (a lot of the most famous glitch images are from TT's where things have been messed with at a db level and not inthe stage editor).

Without access to the zcts file you are a little stuck, because as i said you really need to change the startline from ITT to TTT in the stage editor. A TTT up a mountain does work in the game better than you might think, but your best option would probably be to replace that stage completely, or to try and create your own ITT version (learning to make stages is a great tool and opens up so many options for yourself for the future!)
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tomcat9
TheManxMissile wrote:(learning to make stages is a great tool and opens up so many options for yourself for the future!)

If it was written to me, I can work with Stage Editor Smile Since PCM 2010 Cyanide release a convenient, user friendly SE.
Edited by tomcat9 on 02-06-2020 12:33
 
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