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Tour de France 2017 | Stage 4 | Mondorf - Le -Bains - Vittel
Nin1388
In Heli view Sagan's elbow goes out more as Cav hits him that is done to balance from falling on opposite site. Ride at 60kmph and touch someone else and see how elbow/knees comes out to balance it out from falling on other side.
 
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Spilak23
the elbow happens after the contact
 
ryant
Nin1388 wrote:
Normally Eurosprts are first to support British riders. But they are also saying Cav had no where to go.


Cutting riders off in a sprint is a big no no anyway... I'm not sure if you're trying to troll but you aren't doing a good job of it atm
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clamel
Slow-mo shows the elbow never hit and it was more a reaction of feeling someone back and inside at the hip.
If anything from Sagan hit Cav it was Peters hip I think.

Cav tried to find a hole and really got himself in trouble.
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roturn
Apparently 30s punishment for Sagan and backplaced to last of the peloton.
 
Spilak23
Demare will surely be DSQ'd aswel then
 
clamel
If they do perhaps they should insert "lanes" with ropes as in swimming.
No human can keep things as clean as not something happens in wild sprints like this. Far worse things have been seen over the years, but if they start picking at every small infraction perhaps we have seen the last of dramatic sprints.
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ivaneurope
Spilak23 wrote:
Demare will surely be DSQ'd aswel then


Have you forgotten that this is Tour de FRANCE?
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df_Trek
Demare did same thing that Nizzolo did last year at Giro on last stage...
 
Spilak23
Demare clearly changed both his line and clearly interfered with the sprint of another rider
 
df_Trek
btw Sagan will pay for a Cav error...
 
Kirchen_75
How is 30 sec penalty punishing for Sagan in any way, shape or form. Especially with tomorrows stage. HAHAHA ASO please
 
Paul23
df_Trek wrote:
btw Sagan will pay for a Cav error...


It was 100% Sagans fault.
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ivaneurope
Kirchen_75 wrote:
How is 30 sec penalty punishing for Sagan in any way, shape or form. Especially with tomorrows stage. HAHAHA ASO please


He lost all his points from this stage
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Paul23
ivaneurope wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
How is 30 sec penalty punishing for Sagan in any way, shape or form. Especially with tomorrows stage. HAHAHA ASO please


He lost all his points from this stage


That's nothing...they should've taken him off the race for that. Greipel was furious in an interview.
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Luxemburger
Kirchen_75 wrote:
How is 30 sec penalty punishing for Sagan in any way, shape or form. Especially with tomorrows stage. HAHAHA ASO please


Well placed as last will hurt him way more here.
Also even if Sagan didn't touch Cavendish with his elbow he went to the right in the sprint even if there was no space anyway. That could be interpreted as cutting off, even if it can be discussed if it was intentional to block Cavendish.
Demare's line changes are more understandable if you see what was happening around him, also he didn't block someone into the fences while doing so.
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df_Trek
Paul23 wrote:
df_Trek wrote:
btw Sagan will pay for a Cav error...


It was 100% Sagans fault.


Impossible give 0/100 fault to one or another...maybe Sagan could do something better, but Cav starts overtaking his rear wheel when ther's less than 80 cm between sagan and wall
 
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Robbie McEwen saying Sagan should have been DQ aswell.
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Kirchen_75
Time penalties are so retarded. Does that mean if im not interested in green jersey or GC I can ride dick around and put riders into barriers?
 
Dusen
It's wrong to relegate Sagan. I thaught he was at fault as well the first few times i saw it, but let's clear a few things.

- He doesn't hit Cavendish at any point with his albue, you can't find a picture of that what so ever.

- There is next to no gap, and Cavendish is coming from behind, trying to force his way through.

- He touch Sagan's on the back somehow, and falls

- Sagan pulls out his right albue to regain balance

IMO just what happens in sprints.
But hey, look at that, with Sagan relegated maybe they can get a frenchman in the green jersey Wink
 
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