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ruben
But nowhere comparable to anyone else who came out of the relative nothing.

Even Isidro Nozal when he became 2nd in the Vuelta wasn't coming THAT much out of nothing like Froome.
 
Dymo
To my opinion the season says only 1 thing to me. That the riders are closer together. This is according to me a result of the progress in proffessionalism. Teams will better care for that their riders peak and have rest on good moments. Also to not let them ride to many days. Like we have seen with Contador. Winning the Giro and wasn't good enough for the tour. This is just because it isn't possible anymore because teams and riders are more focusing on goals. Look at our Tour winner. Didn't do much more than preparing for the Tour. That is what Armstrong did and that make him in a strong position.

So the improved professionalism at teams can be a big factor to the results. So Cobo and Froome maybe could have an ultimate preparation for the Vuelta. And Zaugg was just the fittest of the peleton at the GTL. So he win and well deserved i think.

I don't say the sport is totally clean but they are on a good way. Stimulate the teams then and don't try to break the moral of teams and riders with your suspicions. Support them and we will have one day a clean, unpredictable and professional sport. And lets celebrate the nice outcome of the GTL because i really enjoyed it.Grin
 
Aquarius
Dymo wrote:
I don't say the sport is totally clean but they are on a good way. Stimulate the teams then and don't try to break the moral of teams and riders with your suspicions. Support them and we will have one day a clean, unpredictable and professional sport. And lets celebrate the nice outcome of the GTL because i really enjoyed it.Grin
A bit like cycling in the mid 90's. Unpredictable, with no one worrying or talking about dope (well, little did).
Too bad they started doping in 1998, good thing they were caught soonish though.
 
Wilier
Tour of Hainan, Stage 1: Sanya - Wuzhishan (163.5 km)
1Justin JulesFRALa Pomme Marseille4h12'46"
2Valentin IglinskiyKAZAstana
3Adam PhelanAUSDrapac Cycling
4Kamil ZielinskiPOLCCC Polsat - Polkowice
5Kazuhiro MoriJPNAisan Racing Team
6Adiq OthmanMASDrapac Cycling
7Reinardt Janse Van RensburgRSAMTN - Qhubeka
8Christian PoosLUXTeam Differdange - Magic-sportfood.de
9Wang MeiyinCHNCHINA
10David GutierrezESPGeox - TMC
 
ruben
Aquarius wrote:
Dymo wrote:
I don't say the sport is totally clean but they are on a good way. Stimulate the teams then and don't try to break the moral of teams and riders with your suspicions. Support them and we will have one day a clean, unpredictable and professional sport. And lets celebrate the nice outcome of the GTL because i really enjoyed it.Grin
A bit like cycling in the mid 90's. Unpredictable, with no one worrying or talking about dope (well, little did).
Too bad they started doping in 1998, good thing they were caught soonish though.
Are you kidding me?
They started doping in 1998?

You of all people should know the gigantic unreal increase in watts beginning 90'ties. Van Hooydonck was one of the first victims of that, where he was winning RVV before, he now couldn't even follow the 20 best, mainly Italians.
And in the Tour we saw a gigantic jump in mountain performances from 390 to 430W and beyond.

And thing of Gewiss and other doping system teams where a lot of average riders suddenly became superman
 
mb2612
ruben wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
Dymo wrote:
I don't say the sport is totally clean but they are on a good way. Stimulate the teams then and don't try to break the moral of teams and riders with your suspicions. Support them and we will have one day a clean, unpredictable and professional sport. And lets celebrate the nice outcome of the GTL because i really enjoyed it.Grin
A bit like cycling in the mid 90's. Unpredictable, with no one worrying or talking about dope (well, little did).
Too bad they started doping in 1998, good thing they were caught soonish though.
Are you kidding me?
They started doping in 1998?

You of all people should know the gigantic unreal increase in watts beginning 90'ties. Van Hooydonck was one of the first victims of that, where he was winning RVV before, he now couldn't even follow the 20 best, mainly Italians.
And in the Tour we saw a gigantic jump in mountain performances from 390 to 430W and beyond.

And thing of Gewiss and other doping system teams where a lot of average riders suddenly became superman


He's joking Ruben Grin
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Please assume I am joking unless otherwise stated
 
CrueTrue
You really suck at catching other people's jokes, Ruben Pfft
 
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Aquarius
Wait, would that mean people already doped during the Gewiss' era ? Pfft
 
Wilier
Tour of Hainan, Stage 2: Wuzhishan - Xinglong (145.1 km)
1Yasuharu NakajimaJPNAisan Racing Team3h43'39"
2Kenny van HummelNEDSkil - Shimano59"
3Justin JulesFRALa Pomme Marseille59"
4Reinardt Janse Van RensburgRSAMTN - Qhubeka59"
5Daniele ColliITAGeox - TMC59"
6Stuart ShawAUSDrapac Cycling59"
7Peter ErdinSUIAtlas Personal59"
8Valentin IglsinkiyKAZAstana59"
9Xavier FlorencioESPGeox - TMC59"
10Gediminas KaupasLTUTeam Differdange - Magic-sportfood.de59"
 
dienblad
Aquarius wrote:
Wait, would that mean people already doped during the Gewiss' era ? Pfft

I heard a rumour that doping was involved in the sport for some decades. That even the tragic death of Tommy Simpson had something to do with it.
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dienblad wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
Wait, would that mean people already doped during the Gewiss' era ? Pfft

I heard a rumour that doping was involved in the sport for some decades. That even the tragic death of Tommy Simpson had something to do with it.

Nah, I don't think that's true. It's just a rumour. Trust me I know this shit
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Wilier
Tour of Hainan, Stage 3: Xinglong - Wenchang (161 km)
1Tom VeelersNEDSkil - Shimano3h53'30"
2Kenny van HummelNEDSkil - Shimano
3Harrif SallehMASTerengganu Cycling Team
4Valentin IglinskiyKAZAstana
5Anuar MananMASTerengganu Cycling Team
6Mart OjaveeESTChampion System
7Martijn VerschoorNEDTeam Type 1 - Sanofi
8Daniele ColliITAGeox - TMC
9Rico Dean RogersNZLGiant - Kenda Cycling Team
10Kazuhiro MoriJPNAisan Racing Team

Edited by Wilier on 22-10-2011 19:09
 
FreitasPCM
Nathan Haas won the Japan Cup, showing good form in the season end.
 
Wilier
Tour of Hainan, Stage 4: Wenchang - Haikou (163.8 km)
1Deon LockeAUSChampion System3h50'07"
2Haijun MaCHNChina05"
3Kam-Po WongHKGHong Kong10"
4Tom VeelersNEDSkil - Shimano15"
5Justin JulesFRALa Pomme Marseille15"
6Kenny van HummelNEDSkil - Shimano15"
7Valentin IglinskiyKAZAstana15"
8Daniele ColliITAGeox - TMC15"
9Reinardt Janse Van RensburgRSAMTN - Qhubeka15"
10Martijn VerschoorNEDTeam Type 1 - Sanofi15"
 
Wilier
Tour of Hainan, Stage 5
1Anuar MananMASTerengganu Cycling Team3h21'25"
2Harrif SallehMASTerengganu Cycling Team
3Rico Dean RogersNZLGiant Kenda Cycling Team
4Daniele ColliITAGeox - TMC
5Kenny van HummelNEDSkil - Shimano
6Tom VeelersNEDSkil - Shimano
7Peter ErdinSUIAtlas Personal
8Adiq OthmanMASDrapac Cycling
9Sylwester JaniszewskiPOLCCC Polsat - Polkowice
10Marko KumpSLOGeox - TMC
 
Wilier
Tour of Hainan, Stage 6: Chengmai - Danzhou (201.8 km)
1Kenny van HummelNEDSkil - Shimano3h54'22"
2Harrif SallehMASTerengganu Cycling Team
3Peter ErdinSUIAtlas Personal
4Rico RogersNZLGiant Kenda Cycling Team
5Martijn VerschoorNEDTeam Type 1 - Sanofi
6Marko KumpSLOGeox - TMC
7Kazuhiro MoriJPNAisan Racing Team
8Zhi An ChenCHNChina 361° Cycling Team
9Stuart ShawAUSDrapac Cycling
10Christian PoosLUXTeam Differdange - Magic-sportfood.de
 
dienblad
Wilier wrote:
Tour of Hainan, Stage 6: Chengmai - Danzhou (201.8 km)
1Kenny van HummelNEDSkil - Shimano3h54'22"
2Harrif SallehMASTerengganu Cycling Team
3Peter ErdinSUIAtlas Personal
4Rico RogersNZLGiant Kenda Cycling Team
5Martijn VerschoorNEDTeam Type 1 - Sanofi
6Marko KumpSLOGeox - TMC
7Kazuhiro MoriJPNAisan Racing Team
8Zhi An ChenCHNChina 361° Cycling Team
9Stuart ShawAUSDrapac Cycling
10Christian PoosLUXTeam Differdange - Magic-sportfood.de


Go Kenny!!! Smile
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pcm2009fan
The Japan Cup was raced on Sunday but I hadn't seen any mention of the results:

1. HAAS Nathan GEN 4h08'35"
2. NISHITANI Taiji AIS
3. SANO Junya DAN
4. CUNEGO Damiano LAM
5. HATANAKA Yusuke SMN
6. MORI Manuele LAM 02"
7. CARUSO Damiano LIQ 02"
8. SHIMIZU Miyataka BGT 04"
9. SALERNO Cristiano LIQ 07"
10. BASSO Ivan LIQ 09"
 
Wilier
Tour of Hainan, Stage 7: Danzhou - Dongfang (196 km)
1Kenny van HummelNEDSkil - Shimano4h36'52"
2Chan Jae JangKORTerengganu Cycling Team
3Daniele ColliITAGeox - TMC
4Justin JulesFRALa Pomme Marseille
5Valentin IglinskiyKAZAstana
6Kazuhiro MoriJPNAisan Racing Team
7Anuar MananMASTerengganu Cycling Team
8Kamil ZielinskiPOLCCC Polsat - Polkowice
9Harrif SallehMASTerengganu Cycling Team
10Takeaki AyabeJPNAisan Racing Team
 
Wilier
Tour of Hainan, Stage 8: Dongfang - Sanya (184.7 km)
1Valentin IglinskiyKAZAstana4h27'45"
2Daniele ColliITAGeox - TMC
3Reinardt Janse Van RensburgRSAMTN - Qhubeka
4Adam PhelanAUSDrapac Cycling
5Sylwester JaniszewskiPOLCCC Polsat - Polkowice
6Adiq OthmanMASDrapac Cycling
7Wang MeiyinCHNCHINA
8Kamil ZielinskiPOLCCC Polsat - Polkowice
9Chan Jae JangKORTerengganu Cycling Team
10Stefan GanserGERTeam Eddy Merckx - Indeland
 
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